Posted on 07/22/2008 9:16:05 PM PDT by Salvation
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2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception). |
2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:
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I thought sex sells, no?
**Our culture is sated with sexual indulgence but remains starved for love.**
How did we reach this point? In my mind, we lost our way, lost our morals, didn’t listen to the Gospels, became indifferent to the Word of God in the Gospels.
There is no hidden treasure in sexual indulgence; the hidden treasure is in the true love that a man and a woman have for one another as they grow together during their married life.
“How did we reach this point?”
Socialism. For more than 100 years America has been embracing a socialist government. Read Abe Lincoln’s speeches. One of the central tenets of socialism has always been “free love”. Chemistry gava us contraception. Better (socialist) living through chemistry has been the result. And the death of millions of children.
**And the death of millions of children.**
So sad.
This thread is the dead elephant in the middle of the room.
Please consider the points made. Please post your prayers for me and you and all of us affected by the modern destructive sexualized society we have and the horrific impact it has on each of us and our children.
Don’t Forget the women who take Contraception are not in the state of Grace.. Mothers not in a state of Grace Probably don’t nurture their families in Religion... and then we have a Generation of Cafeteria Catholics..
**Mothers not in a state of Grace Probably dont nurture their families in Religion... and then we have a Generation of Cafeteria Catholics..**
Excellent point. You may be ahead of the series here! LOL!
Nor does contraception enhance the role of a father.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I hate man-bashing. It hurts me as a woman, to have men tossed around and degraded by womens’ comments.
Dear Lord, I pray, help these women to see that without men they would not even be alive!
People think there are only two people in a marriage. There are really (at least):
Man
Wife
God
The generations that made the man/wife
The generations that gave the church to man/wife (in spite of dungeon, fire, and sword...)
The generations (the Church) to come from man/wife
Procreation IS evangelizing in its most fundamental form. It is creating new souls within the promise to live the Christian walk and perpetuate the church and preserve its glory. The church’s most aggressive recruiting drive must come from within. I am shocked and amused at the aggressive drives to evangelize to Africa or China or that scummy neighborhood down the street and yet “God only wants two kids from us.” The church is the bride of Christ. Sometimes the bride stops at two kids cuz it doesn’t trust the husband, Christ, to provide for more. Or it has a headache.
I disagree. While some couples do not realize what the consequences of practicing contraception will be, almost all Catholics are aware of the Church's teaching that contraception is evil. They are not ignorant of what the Church teaches. Therefore, even if they do not realize that practicing contraception will adversely affect their marriage, they do know that it is objectively evil or, at least, that the Church says that it is objectively evil. Therefore, they are culpable. Catholics who dissent from this teaching are not merely disagreeing with a particular doctrine, they are rejecting the Church's authority. Therefore, it is no wonder that the same Catholics who reject the Church's teaching on birth control also question or reject other Church teachings and not just on matters of morality, such as divorce, homosexuality, abortion, but on matters of faith, such as belief in the Real Presence. Contraception is poison all right but most of those who greedily drink from that cup don't care whether or not this poisons affects their conjugal lives or their faith.
Considering the number of persons born despite contraception, this assertion is dubious.
Because he couldnt find the placenta on the sonagram, he opted to use a 'classical' C-section incision. There was no time to consider options - I had lost a LOT of blood and the first that doctor told me that if it was a choice between me and the baby, he was saving the baby. I told the doctor THANK YOU!
Because there was a lot of damage and a bad infection after the C-section, the doctor insisted I get on the pill for a year after I had my daughter. He did not want to take a chance of compromising the integrity of the womb or endangering a life by another pregnancy. As soon as a year was up, I stopped taking the pill.
The pill DOES have its benefits.
This particular area of contraception is very near and dear to my heart. My husband and I spent the first few years of our marriage contracepting. I was a cradle Catholic that really didn’t know or understand the Church. Luckily, we got into a group of young couples through the Church and began to learn a lot! When I found out that the pill could be an abortificient I was devastated. Heartbroken! How many potential babies had my husband and I possibly lost?
I went off the pill the next day and was pregnant a month later. I’d like to say that everything was great after that but it wasn’t. We were one phone call away from splitting up after my son was born. It was a very ugly point in our life together. My dad was the strong one and wouldn’t come and get me. He gave me some wonderful advice and we were able to hang on a little longer.
It wasn’t until after our daughter was born that we finally went to Natural Family Planning classes. I truly believe that the knowledge gained from those classes and a renewed faith in God solidified our marriage. It’s not always rosy but it is so much more respectful, kind and loving. I am grateful that we were able to stick together through that rough patch because I can’t imagine ever being with anyone else. He is an amazing husband and father.
That gift we are able to give to each other without barriers of any kind is the best present ever. We are about to celebrate the first birthday of our fourth child and welcome any more children God has planned for us.
**There are really (at least):
Man
Wife
God**
I agree wholeheartedly. Love is a decision by the man and wife blessed by God. Not an infatuation.
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