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To: Resolute Conservative
The Catholic Church is full of man’s traditions and trappings not found anywhere in the Bible (other than Baptism and a Communion sacrament )...

The Catholic Church is not bound by the fraud known as sola scriptura.

...while the Catholic Church is founded on the premise of Christ’s Church is it not the same one from Acts.

It is precisely the same Church as the one in Acts, augmented by almost 2000 years of Tradition and Scholarship inspired by the Holy Spirit.

80 posted on 07/08/2008 5:09:22 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

No again.

Bible says that Jesus is the Head of the Church. No man may take that role. The verse that some mistake as making Peter the first “pontiff” was an reference to building a Church based on the steadfast faith of Peter not on Peter.

I must have missed the part where the Bible dresses the head of the church in flowing robes and tall hats. Jesus wore a plain robe from the time period and never had more than that and walked everywhere He went or rode a donkey. He depended on the charity of others to live and never had more than He immediately needed.

I also missed the part where the Bible set-up a hierarchy of clergy more complex than a city government. My Bible says that Jesus is the head of the church and I answer to Him and only confess to Him and NO other. No body else can intercede for me and praying to other people is a sin. I gather as a Church body to worship Him and give strength to fellow believers or take encouragement when I need it and spread His Word.

I also missed the parts that said I have to follow rigid ceremonies and traditions outside of Baptism and Communion. My Bible says to pray without ceasing to God and not anyone one else no matter their status and to love everyone as I love Jesus. The Bible says not to pray with meaningless repetition.

I also read where I am saved by Grace alone and no works will help me to heaven only grant me rewards when I get there. Through His Grace am I saved and that makes me want to perform works to be more Christ like but it has no bearing on my salvation.


82 posted on 07/09/2008 7:15:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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