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To: Old Mountain man
Was Joseph Smith the Mayor of Nauvoo that closed the office and destroyed equipment, shutting down a free press in the US?

Did Joseph Smith not command a standing extra legal militia, brought to ready after this incident, within the confines of the state of Illinois, without consent of the Governor, who commanded all militias within the state, which is an act of at least insubordination and a more accurately, especially considering the size of the force (over half the size of the standing US army at that time), treasonous? I offered up that the mob was wrong, but Smith was in jail for a reason.

So let's take this to its logical end. Are you now implying that violating the US Constitution is an answer, that activating a personal/municipal standing army without the advice and consent of the United States or Illinois Command structure is acceptable? Should the mayor of LA or New York be allowed to raise a military force at will?

As far as the symbols bit, that is ok, I already had the answer.

121 posted on 07/09/2008 11:30:39 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: ejonesie22

“Was Joseph Smith the Mayor of Nauvoo that closed the office and destroyed equipment, shutting down a free press in the US?” He was the mayor.

“Did Joseph Smith not command a standing extra legal militia, brought to ready after this incident, within the confines of the state of Illinois, without consent of the Governor, who commanded all militias within the state, which is an act of at least insubordination and a more accurately, especially considering the size of the force (over half the size of the standing US army at that time), treasonous? I offered up that the mob was wrong, but Smith was in jail for a reason. “ The Nauvoo legion was chartered by the State of Illinois. If that makes them “extra-legal” then we all have a problem.

“So let’s take this to its logical end. Are you now implying that violating the US Constitution is an answer, that activating a personal/municipal standing army without the advice and consent of the United States or Illinois Command structure is acceptable? Should the mayor of LA or New York be allowed to raise a military force at will? “

Lots of questions there. Who violated the US Constitution? Mayors activate their police forces all the time, don’t they?

The mayors of LA and New York both have military forces at their command today that are more powerful than the Nauvoo Legion ever was.

As often as the Saints were attacked by the so-called innocent people around them, mobilizing the legion would be a good thing.

None of these things were ever proven in a court of law because the good protestants of Carthage formed a nice little lynch mob. I understand they only broke up when somebody shouted “The Legion is coming”.

So, to most of your arguments, I can truly say that they are complete bloviation.


124 posted on 07/09/2008 11:44:39 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: ejonesie22
Did Joseph Smith not command a standing extra legal militia

No he commanded a legal militia. Consult your constitution. What is amazing is that on the most conservative website online anti-Mormons consistently adopt liberal lies when it comes to discussion of the Mormons. But hey its an open forum. Any other liberal lies you want to promote in open view of your fellow FReepers?

201 posted on 07/10/2008 1:41:13 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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