How the Book of Mormon Came to Be: Sniffs of pomade in a hat.
Posted on 07/01/2008 6:01:56 PM PDT by Grig
Part 1, A Testament Is Established
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2033073/posts
Part 2, The Word Is Preserved
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2033622/posts
Part 3, A New Word Is Added to the Old
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2038304/posts
Part 4, The Canon Becomes an Unread Relic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2038916/posts
Thank you for posting another fascinating thread
about the differences between mormonism and true
Christianity. There is quite a gulf between the
two.
In addition to writing about the low view mormonism
takes of the Holy Bible, will you also write about
the following Mormon Teachings...
God is only one God among many that exist - Polytheism
God used to be a man on another planet
That God the Father had a Father
That God resides near a planet called Kolob
That there is a Mother God too, in addition to a Father God
Mormon males can someday become gods of their own planet
Mormon man-gods will populate that planet with spirits that come from their union with god-wives
Consequently, that there are a great many gods - potentially billions or trillions, as in Hinduism
That there are multiple levels of heaven
Jesus’ sacrificial death is inadequate to cleanse us from all sins (murder and repeated adultery, for example)
There is no salvation apart from accepting Joseph Smith as a Prophet
Mormon “Temple Rituals” are nowhere proscribed in their books, but were taken from Free Masons
Moromonism teaches that Christian Churches are ALL wrong
Polygamy is practiced to day in “heaven”
Jesus was a created spirit being
Again, thank you Grig.
It’s ironic that traditional Christianity has adopted a variety of improved translations of the New Testament due to textual criticism of the Greek New Testament, but the LDS church retains the KJV as the canon.
It seems traditional Christianity has embraced the 8th Article of Faith better than we have! Well, the part concerning the Bible anyway!
“We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”
Cool.
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Revisionist rubbish calculated to serve the fevered imaginings of Mormon fables. Nothing more. The virtually unanimous consensus of even disinterested, secular-minded historians flies completely in the face of this nonsense.
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Amazing that the poster of this thread violated the copyright
and terms of service of the Mormon Church in order to try
to portray mormonism as Christian...
Don’t Christians hold to a high standard of ethics??
OR...
Was that the point of the poster - a recognition that mormonism
and Biblical Christianity are vastly different? And he
tried to accomplish this through showing the difference
in ethics?
Godzilla, you are sharp!
ampu
Oh look, a new effort to try and silence Mormons.
BTW: I've published a number of op-ed columns as a freelance writer, and this is public news forum. I don't see why this shouldn't fall under 'personal, noncommercial use' either.
“Revisionist rubbish calculated to serve the fevered imaginings of Mormon fables”
So then point out where in the article you think history was revised and provide evidence to back up your claims.
If you can that is.
And yet you have posted from sources that are copyright is ‘All Rights Reserved’, a far more restrictive designation than that on lds.org.
So are ‘real’ Christians hypocrites, or are you just showing us all that you aren’t really Christian?
...not so sure about that Grigster.
I do appreciate the public service you are providing
though on these threads. It is good for the public
to know just how different mormonism and Christianity
are.
How soon until the next installment?
Those would be yours intellectually and you could post them any where they would take them. These articles are not yours intellectually or public domain. If you don't like the distribution rules set up by your 'source', take it up with them. While you are at it you can bring up AOF #12 too.
As far as I know, we have received no complaints from this source so there is no issue here.
Does FR need to be bothered with a complaint when the site clearly states its use policy that forbids postings without permission?
Well, well, yet another Lenore H. Read citation of Dr. Geddes MacGregor, the Anglican priest-turned reincarnationist-karma-gnostic who teaches/taught at the University of Southern California).
Let’s see. Lenore Hadley Read published this series in the LDS Ensign Magazine in 1982. MacGregor is her A#1 footnote for Part 2…She footnotes MacGregor EIGHT TIMES in Part 4—22% of her footnotes showing exactly how heavily she was leaning on him for theological perspective…then here she sources him yet again in Part 5 that you just posted…(How many more times are you going to keep elevating an occultic author Grig with these series’ posts? How many more times are you going to keep posting shoddy research under the guise of “Christian” history?)
If some unknown anonymous Baptist Kings James-only advocate-researcher could discover MacGregor’s 1979 book, Gnosis, certainly Hadley-Read could have as well.
”During my research for version 3.0 of this paper, I stumbled across a much newer work (1979) by Geddes MacGreggor. Curiously it was titled "Gnosis" and was about Gnostics. In the inner leaf, the publisher's name was given as The Theosophical Society of America - an occult book publisher! MacGreggor is now pushing gnostic thought, and accusing the early church, particularly Iraneaus, of error in stopping the movement. He is enthralled by the Alexandrian cults and believes that Jesus can only be understood within His gnostic setting. He calls for a twentieth century reformation of the church along Alexandrian lines. This is not surprising. In majority, the texts used to "correct" the Recieved Text are Alexandrian in origin.” http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0206.htm
Since the author-researched screwed up, what what about the Ensign editor circa 1982? What? They’ll just publish anything occultic & cultic? (Oh, yeah, I briefly forgot, we are talking about the Mormon church, after all) What about LDS’ online editors since then? (It can’t be that they were on coffee break for 26 years),
And what kind of reader reaction has MacGregor’s book Gnosis received? ”BTW, I read and enjoyed his book on Gnosis. It was a turning point for me: after reading it, I accepted to identify myself as a neo-gnostic. I’ve felt “at home” ever since.” See http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/04/15/the-holodeck-vs-the-prime-directive/
And what kind of reaction has MacGregor’s books (yes, plural) rec’d from the Gnostic folks? Why Gnostic Magazine reviewed his follow-up book, Angels: Ministers of Grace [gotta love that “angel theme” the Mormon church connection has going here] (See http://www.gnosismagazine.com/issue_contents/contents13.html ). Why MacGregor’s book was reviewed sandwiched right between The Goddess Re-Awakening: The Feminine Principle Today compiled by Shirley Nicholson and Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee, foreword by Whitley Strieber [I kid you not!]
And in case you get “bored” in reading the Bible, as Mormon author Hadley Read accused early Christians of being in the same graph she quoted MacGregor…as if either Hadley Read or MacGregor could have taken a second or third century poll of Christians, why you can go to that same Gnostic Magazine issue that reviewed MacGregor’s “Angels” book and read these other “stellar” religious works [sarc]:
In Search of the Primordial Tradition and the Cosmic Christ by Father John Rossner, Ph.D.
Practical Magic in the Northern Tradition by Nigel Pennick
Persuasion's of the Witch's Craft: Ritual Magic in Contemporary England by T.M. Luhrmann
Blavatsky and Her Teachers by Jean Overton Fuller
The Elements of the Celtic Tradition by Caitlin Matthews
Inside the Brotherhood: Further Secrets of the Freemasons by Martin Short
The Temple and the Lodge by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh
Black Square and Compass: 200 Years of Prince Hall Freemasonry by Joseph A. Walkes, Jr.
And so, Hadley Read made this MAJOR scholarly blunder in 1982, so did the Ensign magazine editor. And here we are, 26 years later, and so you would think that the scholars at BYU would have alerted the LDS church to this huge blunder in this generational interim. But, no. No one’s brought up the fact that Geddes Mac keeps on chugging to occult fame with additional books and CDs:
Reincarnation in Christianity
Reincarnation in Christianity: A New Vision of the Role of Rebirth in Christian Thought [Separate from the resource above…According to the brief review on this book, it apparently attempts to show how ”Christian doctrine and reincarnation are not mutually exclusive belief systems. “ http://www.questbooks.net/title.cfm?bookid=350
The Christening of Karma: The Secret Evolution
Theosophical Perceptions in Christian Orthodoxy
Evolution, Transmission, and the Inner Meanings of Bible
Rebirth of Christian Gnosticism (CD)
He has edited a book Immortality and Human Destiny that includes a chapter called “Humanistic Self-Judgment and After-Death Experiences” [does that mean humanists believe that they step right up to the Judgment seat and make themselves comfy??? Kind of sounds like temple-worthy Mormon men & women who expect to be omniscient, omnipotent, and worshipped as gods in the life to come, eh?]
What utter gall Mormons have to be leaving up Hadley Read’s series on its officially sanctioned church Web sites for over a quarter of a century up to this very hour!, and now to have online apologists like yourself, Grig, helping to not only spread the false Mormon gospel but the false Gnostic/Reincarnation/Karma/Esoteric gospel!!!
(I guess anything goes as long as it’s “anti-Christian,” eh, Grig?)
What's ironic is that the same man who 'translated' the BoM, which is LDS canon, ALSO 're-translated' the Bible into the JST, which is NOT LDS canon!
Go figger!!
FR is CLEARLY bothered with postings of an UNSCRIPTUAL practices of the LDS Organization® - the SEC oops: SACRED Temple Rites!
How the Book of Mormon Came to Be: Sniffs of pomade in a hat.
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