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To: fproy2222
no personal witness?

Guess you cannot say that you done “all” you can do for salvation? Have you achieved perfection in this life that mormonism demands? The mormon testimony is incapable of answering those questions since you won't know until you die.

I accepted Christ as my Savior when I was about 8 years old at a summer camp. No big emotional blast, just the simple presentation of the gospel like that I've posted, but I still remember the details as clear as day. Since then God has continued to show me His grace and reality through the word and personal experiences. I've been healed of migraine conditions and have had my hearing restored - after doctors were unable to do anything further for me. Christ deals with each as individuals, as it is a personal relationship, and so those things that provide me my confidence and faith in my salvation are different in some degrees from those of my wife and others. However, the bottom line for us is that it has been by grace alone, for from my background no works would have sufficed to earn God's favor. And so I can say the words of Paul as easily as they would be my own -

Romans 5:
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only [so], but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offense, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

272 posted on 07/07/2008 8:13:36 AM PDT by Godzilla (I am trying to arrange an archeological tour of the Nephi ruins. I hear they are unreal...)
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To: Godzilla

Beautiful


273 posted on 07/07/2008 8:15:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: Godzilla
I accepted Christ as my Savior when I was about 8 years old at a summer camp.

the bottom line for us is that it has been by grace alone, for from my background no works would have sufficed to earn God's favor ++++++++++++++++=

But, how do you know you are one of the ELECT that your god choose to be save to live with him?

You know, that decision he made before you were born to give grace to whom he wants. How can anyone know that he was predestioned, by your god, to be saved, or to be damed, by the teachings of your god. Just what is the purpose for those who are not part of your god's elect? Why did your god make them when all they can do is suffer?

282 posted on 07/07/2008 9:43:37 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Godzilla
I've been healed of migraine conditions and have had my hearing restored - after doctors were unable to do anything further for me.

+++++++++++++++

Nothing unusual about healings.

You see, God the Father loves us all and wants ALL his children to return to Him.

283 posted on 07/07/2008 9:48:46 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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