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To: Joe 6-pack
With that in mind, I'd have to answer your question, "Yes." GOD is glorified not by the perfection of man, but in man's seeking of perfection...and in that quest, many errors are made.

Certainly many errors are made in "that quest." But I don't believe God is glorified by those errors. He is, however, glorified by the condemnation that He pronounces on those errors, and the mercy He shows in spite of those errors, as Paul tells us...

"What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory" -- Romans 9:22-23

However, as Paul also tells us, even heresies serve the purpose of God...

"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." -- 1 Corinthians 11:19

To somehow believe God is glorified by the errors of our stumbling efforts is to confuse God with our P.E. teacher.

God is glorified when the truth is spoken about Him which is Christ, and only Christ.

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples." -- John 15:1-7


112 posted on 06/24/2008 10:46:14 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Are you speaking about errors or intentional misdeeds? I think there is a fundamental distinction. Intentional sin and turning one's back to GOD is quite different than misunderstanding HIS precepts.

Deliberately lying to somebody does not bring HIM glory. Inadvertently providing somebody with incorrect information affords one the opportunity to correct the mistake, admit the error and humble one's self before his fellow man...all of which bring glory to GOD, and in all of which, the initial human error or imperfection was a necessary condition.

113 posted on 06/24/2008 11:42:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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