Posted on 06/06/2008 1:08:47 PM PDT by Quix
Dearly Beloved . . .
Following are some brief excerpts from Bro Jesse's book. I've read a number of Heavenly Visitation narratives. They are all different in some respects. Some folks might think that they are so different that the individuals must be visiting a different place. I don't feel that way. There's usually some things that are essentially the same.
Virtually always, there's some aspect of the narrative that some group of Christians gets all up in arms about being unBiblical. I've never found any of the more convincing narratives that way, personally.
I have observed that there's virtually always some part of the narrative that folks FEEL IS UNBIBILICAL BECAUSE--THEIR assumptions and private interpretations were jangled. So, it's not the Scripture that is being contradicted but it's individual ASSUMPTIONS and extrapolations about Scripture that's being challenged.
One of the other most impressive narratives to me is that of ROLAND BUCK of the Buck knives family. He was A of G pastor of First Assembly in Boise, Idaho. His book: ANGELS ON ASSIGNMENT is available free for downloading at:
http://www.angelsonassignment.org/http://www.angelsonassignment.org/
I post these excerpts for discussion, not contentiousness. I post it as an open thread instead of a Charismatic caucus thread because I believe that a more free wheeling discussion is likely to be more productive and interesting.
I post such particularly as an encouragement in these challenging, darkening times.
The book is available at the website. There is a package of DVD, book and audio CD's available. I suppose there are some few details in one media not in another. But on the whole, all 3 media types have essentially the identical content--at least 98% or so.
I encourage you to prayerfully consider buying one of the versions. I think it's worth it.
Probably the DVD video set is the most worth it. Jesse is a Cajun. He used to be a rock star. He's fairly funny and quite down to earth. That all comes across best in the video set.
Here goes:
The first part of his life is a narrative about his mother praying for a preacher. And God pointing out that Jesse was the one of the 3 sons and 1 daughter that was chosen of God to be a preacher. Mother was incredulous that God would pick Jesse but prayed accordingly.
Following were many years of Jesse running from God and engaging in all manner of drugs and sin as a rock star etc. and God 'dogging' him in the process.
His Heavenly visitation began after Jesse felt constrained to get up from a steak dinner at a nearby restaurant with a pastor who's church he was to speak at, IIRC . . . and just after the steaks arrived, Jesse got up and excused himself because he felt constrained in his spirit to go to his hotel room.
There, he knelt and noticed that the digital clock said one o-clock. He said "God, what's the matter?"
He felt sucked up out of his room . . . he didn't know at the time whether he was in his body or out of it. I think later he felt he was in his body. He heard a Whoosh.
He found himself traveling in an enclosed cable car type enclosure at a very fast speed.
p. 69:
"Then I looked up. There stood another being. I realized it was the blond-headed angel who had visited me in the bedroom that night in Jonesville. . . 'Where are we going?' "
"He smiled and said, 'You have an appointment with the Lord God Jehovah."
"I felt the chariot slowing down; then it came to a stop. When the door opened, I experienced the shock of my life: I was in heaven!"
He recounts similar things all Heavenly visitors have said about the flowers etc. . . . such as colors unseen here; fragrance unknown here; flowers truning and following you as you walk by . . . etc.
He was still dressed in his jeans and a shirt but saw others dressed in robes and others dressed in gowns. He goes into a distinction--evidently Biblical--about robes of righteousness and I forget what the gowns were mentioned as in Scripture.
And, folks were eating fruit from trees to strengthen them and enable them to stand before The Throne--as Jesse himself was destined to do--though not really stand, much being mostly on his face like most people.
Evidently the folks with gowns believed in God and made it in but still had a lot to be taught about God that they didn't learn on earth. He refd Is 61:10,11 about the 2 types of garments.
He asserted that Abraham is the first one folks meet--not Peter--that all believers are Abraham's kids.
He noted that there were no shadows nor dust in Heaven.
All the aborted babies and kids that died before the age of accountability were there. Evidently many more Chinese kids without parents than other races.
He found children around Jesus wonderous to watch.
On meeting Jesus . . . p 88
". . . I thought there would be scars in His hands and feet. But it wasn't like He had been cut and scarred. I coudl see the holes in his feet. They were so big--about the size of a nickel--that light was shining through them. . . ."
p89 "I said. "Jesus!" He said simply, "Do you like this place?" I said, "Yes, Sir."
p90 " 'I want you to go back and tell my people, I'm coming.'
'But they won't believe me,' I said. "They didn't believe it for centuries, but I came, and I'm coming again."
. . . "I said, 'They know that'" "'No, they don't know that. I brought you here so that you would go tell them I'm coming. Do you hear Me? I'm coming. Go tell them."
He had quite a discussion with ST Paul.
Paul noted p. 97:
"'Our affliction is but for a moment. People have made it a lifetime. Change it back to a moment.'"
He said David was the only one he saw in Heaven with a crown besides Christ Jesus.
David p100: "I did write songs of my experiences, like a lot of other people do. But the better ones are when I allowed the lordship of God in me to come out more than the trouble that I spoke about."
" . . . I wish I had written more songs about God's answers than about my problems."
Jesse was given a tour of his house in Heaven. He was shocked to find it had high ceilings, moldings and furniture just like he likes here on earth. And he was surprised to see mountains and snow in Heaven though there was no cold.
David said:
"Jesse, the earth is God's creation. His taste there is His taste here. Every desire you could possibly think of has been met to your specification for your home, plus God put a few of His own. . . "
p. 105 "' Whose houses are these? . . . The patriarchs?'"
"' Yes, these are where the prophets live."
As we went by, they waved and said, "Hi, David."
"when I waved back, they said, "Hi, Jesse."
"They know me?"
David explained. 'You have preached their sermons. God blesses them with knowing their messages are still reaching people."
"I had to keep eating more of that copper-colored type of fruit because I felt weak."
p 111 "I saw twenty four empty seats near the Throne. . . " "Jesse, we're servants here," David told me . . ."They're out in the city and in Paradise blessing and helping people. We help people here. Everyone serves. Somebody is always trying to do somethign for you. Someone will always ask, 'What can I do for you?'"
p128, 129 "I felt that He [Jesus] was saying our eyes should be on Him, Jesus, instead of on the great tribulation period."
"But as His Body, we are in disobedience by fighting each other. We're not coming together with the witness of Who He is. Satan's greatest ally is our division in the Body of Christ. I thinkn Jesus wants us, the Church, to be looking more at Who He is instead of focusing on our differences."
"If the Body of Christ, the Church, would begin to reveal Who Christ is, and lift Him--the Person of Jesus Christ--up for the world to see, people will be drawn to him. . . ."
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I think he's right.
I don't think there are any startling revelations about Heaven in this book. But it is an encouraging read.
It also includes a narrative about how he began worshipping as he was driving from one place in Louisiana to another--that took a minimum of an hour and a half or some such to drive.
His car filled up with a fog and he was lost in worship raising both hands . . . when he realized what he was doing and grabbed the steering wheel and pulled over to a pay phone, he was already at the destination and his wife noted on the phone call what time it was--he could not have traveled that distance by that time by car short of Holy Spirit moving him along supernaturally. He has proof of when he left etc. Fascinating case of such.
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Thanks much for the links.
Philippians 3
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
AMEN! AMEN!
Hmm, because his brother couldn’t say “Baby?” LOL
Thank you, dear Joya. My heart witnesses to this.
One of our Catholic sisters said the same thing. She brought it home to read to see what was in it, and she felt such evil from it that she took it back to the library.
PRAISE GOD FOR HER DISCERNMENT!
Yea!
Good to hear from you sweetheart.
All blessings and provision on you and yours.
Joya,
Isaiah 26 3Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
Ping to post #39; 1965 prophecy, Stanley Frodisham.
THANKS. will read it again.
Here’s the link to the Seneca Sodi account of Heaven,
THANKS MUCH.
Sounds interesting.
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