[P-Marlowe]

From the newbie:

One can follow Christ and be a practitioner of magick. The Gnostic Approach is the correct and oldest form of Christianity and Joseph Smith knew this. A witches coven is made of twelve Disciples and one Master; Christ had twelve disciples and was their master...the 13th. He followed the magickal way and understood the craft laid down by His Father. Bellow I will show proof of the way, and how at times these things would became corrupted, thus, giving witchcraft a bad name...

Sevenbak are you sure you want to keep praising this newbie?

Was Christ a coven leader of a gang of gnostic witches from Israel? Is that what Mormons believe?

[1000 silverlings]

good grief

[Gamecock]

Thanks for the ping.

I’m going to take a long nap. Wake me if the question is actually answered....

[xzins]

This day just gets stranger and stranger.

:>)

Next it’ll be Jesus and the Seven Dwarves

[big'ol_freeper]

You said: Was Christ a coven leader of a gang of gnostic witches from Israel? Is that what Mormons believe?

Just wow. Pretty scary stuff there. I would think good faithful Mormons would cringe.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

[SkyPilot]

Magick is after all, the same energy God and the Angels use; Was Jesus and the disciples practitioners of so called demonic-witchcraft? perhaps they followed the same system.

Frank Fantasia

I cannot even comment on this.

[sevenbak]

Sevenbak are you sure you want to keep praising this newbie?

Wow, always the conspiracist. Go back and read the thread. I never addressed him. I believe it was the other way around. Where do you get your ideas?

As far as his beliefs in witchcraft, that is obviously outside the doctrine and acceptance of the Church. Witchcraft is the OPPOSITE of the true power of God, given to man through the Holy Priesthood.

These opposites have been in conflict in times past, as they will again, I'm sure.

A couple examples come to mind. The Priests of Pharaoh who used the power of their gods to duplicate the power of Moses' rod. The Priests of Baal in a "power contest" with Elijah. We all know which God won, in both cases, that of the True and Living God, giving his power to man through the priesthood.

What you need to understand, and apparently Frank as well, is this verse from the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 2:11

11 For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility.