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To: MarkBsnr

“Christians are not autonomous.”

Misrepresentation of what I said. I said nothing about the “Christians.” True Christians, regardless of earthly affiliation, or no earthly affiliation at all, are attached to Jesus Christ and sealed by the Spirit of God — ALL an operation of God, not of man, nor of any visible church on the earth.

What man does, man can disolve. What a visible earthly church does, it can disolve. (Or it can keep instituting new stuff for itself over 1,600 years). But what God does is forever. When God “births” and individual, that is a child of God forever. When God seals an idividual, that seal lasts forever.

Visible churches on earth come, and they go. The Body of Christ, which is not headquartered in any city on earth, but from the Right Hand of God Himself, where the ONLY Head of the Church sits presently, doesn’t come-and-go, it was founded ONCE-FOR-EVER in Christ’s Blood, and it remains. That is the CHURCH.


6,350 posted on 06/16/2008 8:34:58 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

***“Christians are not autonomous.”

Misrepresentation of what I said. I said nothing about the “Christians.” True Christians, regardless of earthly affiliation, or no earthly affiliation at all, are attached to Jesus Christ and sealed by the Spirit of God — ALL an operation of God, not of man, nor of any visible church on the earth.***

You said that you had worked to create three autonomous churches. No church is autonomous - all churches are under the authority of the bishop appointed by God. Do these churches have a bishop?

***When God seals an idividual, that seal lasts forever.***

The seal is a mark of God; the seal of the beast is also a mark. No guarantees; we have the ability to walk away from Christ; we have, with God’s Grace, the ability to walk away from the beast.

***Visible churches on earth come, and they go.***

The One Church stays and watches the others come and go.


6,353 posted on 06/16/2008 9:06:41 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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