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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
The wicked are wicked from birth. They are not blank slates. They are born depraved. Further, they like wickedness and they do it all the day long. They dislike the Light, because the Light will reveal them for what they are.

John 3:19

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

5,784 posted on 06/14/2008 3:53:27 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

AMEN.


5,785 posted on 06/14/2008 3:55:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

They are born depraved but God did not create them depraved?


5,786 posted on 06/14/2008 3:55:28 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings

***3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. ***

Okay. And? Where does it say that men are predestined to hell?


5,790 posted on 06/14/2008 4:00:00 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

***The wicked are wicked from birth. They are not blank slates. They are born depraved. Further, they like wickedness and they do it all the day long. They dislike the Light, because the Light will reveal them for what they are.***

The love and mercy of God enables all men to repent and be saved.

Luke 2:
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4 Now there were shepherds in that region living in the fields and keeping the night watch over their flock.
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The angel of the Lord appeared to them and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were struck with great fear.
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The angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I proclaim to you good news of great joy that will be for all the people.
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5 For today in the city of David a savior has been born for you who is Messiah and Lord.


5,889 posted on 06/15/2008 8:51:36 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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