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To: thefrankbaum
The link is to another thread on FR, an article written by a single Priest concerning Padre Pio and the proposed title of "Co-redemptrix." In no way is it an authoritative Church document.

Read the comments on that thread. Every Catholic there defends, supports and practically glorifies that entire thread.

Are all those Catholic FReepers wrong? Misguided? Not adhering to Catholic dogma?

John Paul II referred to Mary as the "co-redeemer" on at least eight occasions during his papacy.

Or was JPII not "authoritative" enough?

461 posted on 06/01/2008 2:10:58 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

John Paul II often spoke of his love for Poland. Loving Poland is not Catholic teaching. Benedict XVI speaks often of his love for classical music. Loving classical music is not Catholic teaching.


465 posted on 06/01/2008 2:13:20 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Are all those Catholic FReepers wrong? Misguided? Not adhering to Catholic dogma?

Catholics as a group believe a lot of things. That fact alone does not make them dogma, nor does believing something mean "not adhering to Catholic dogma" unless Catholic dogma says not to believe that thing.

471 posted on 06/01/2008 2:17:19 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
John Paul II, Padre Pio, and various Catholic FReepers are all entitled to their opinions on this issue - as are the many Catholics who do not see a need to define it currently. The Church (specifically, the Magisterium) has not spoken on the issue, and it is actually open to debate within the Church. No one is or is not adhering to Catholic dogma on the issue because no such dogma exists!

JPII can teach privately as the Bishop of Rome, or he can teach authoritatively ex cathedra with the authority of Peter. It has been made very clear by the Vatican he was not teaching or arguing ex cathedra.

481 posted on 06/01/2008 2:23:05 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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