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To: wagglebee; wmfights; mgist; Petronski; trisham; newgeezer
There IS a verse that tells us EXPLICITELY to call (and just a clue: it says CALL, we're not talking about what you think of her) Mary "blessed," why don't you do that?

Luke 1:48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. First, not an easy verse to find in a concofdance because there are sooooo many other people that are blessed.

Second, in 4 verses here it says she is blessed and she shall be called blessed.

To honor the scriptures is to take it at it's word and go no further or no less far than what it says.

If a parent asks a child to take this twenty dollar bill and buy 1 gallon of 2 percent mild and 1 loaf of wheat bread and bring back the change, then if the kid comes back with 1/2 gallon of skim and some white buns, or if he comes back with 2 gallons of whole milk and 2 loaves of rye, he has not honored his parents words.

These verses about Mary do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you should call Mary the mother of God".

They do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you should call Mary the immaculate conception".

They do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you shall cal Mary Blessed".

This verse says that she shall be called blessed. She carried the Lord Jesus Christ in her womb, she is blessed like the many other people the bible say were blessed. To honor the bible is to take it at exactly what it says rather than building new doctrines or ignoring what is given.

4,548 posted on 06/10/2008 10:29:50 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DungeonMaster
These verses about Mary do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you should call Mary the mother of God".

They do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you should call Mary the immaculate conception".

They do not say "A new commandment I give you, that you shall cal Mary Blessed".

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And yet, all these things are true. Mary is the Mother of God, she did experience an immaculate conception, and she has been blessed.

4,552 posted on 06/10/2008 10:40:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DungeonMaster
To honor the scriptures is to take it at it's word and go no further or no less far than what it says.

Such a bland, cramped view of Scripture!

You're not reading tax code, you know.

4,553 posted on 06/10/2008 10:41:49 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: DungeonMaster

“To honor the bible is to take it at exactly what it says rather than building new doctrines or ignoring what is given.”

But even the most strict observer is going to have to admit that “what is given” demands interpretation. St. Paul indeed said “All have sinned,” did this include the Holy Innocents, or, indeed, Jesus himself?

Once interpretation is admitted, the question becomes the authority to interpret correctly. All Marian doctrines are constructed as logical syllogisms of statements made in Scripture about the nature of Christ, in the light of the Church’s authority to interpret those statements. If one disagrees, that’s one’s right, but it’s remarkable arrogance to claim the right of free interpretation for oneself, but not to permit others the same right.


4,556 posted on 06/10/2008 10:52:47 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: DungeonMaster
Second, in 4 verses here it says she is blessed and she shall be called blessed.

To honor the scriptures is to take it at it's word and go no further or no less far than what it says.

Amen.

Mary is blessed as Daniel was blessed, or Elijah or Enoch. We don't pray to them or expect them to magnify our prayers.

Dan. 9:23 At the beginning of your supplications the command went out, and I have come to tell you, for you are greatly beloved;...

4,557 posted on 06/10/2008 11:03:00 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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