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To: 1000 silverlings

I might instinctively dislike someone who posted derogatory things about my church.

I am still, after all, human and fallible. Yet I know that even Satan cannot destroy the Holy Catholic Church, so why should I worry what any other human says? Because I love the Church, derogatory things said about it tend to rile me. I should just pray for St. Mary to bless the one who says them.


2,358 posted on 06/04/2008 7:15:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix
You said

It is turning me against all protties....

Like I said, that statement is akin to saying "I hate puppies"

2,360 posted on 06/04/2008 7:17:01 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Judith Anne

A thing is only a thing.

God and His Living Word is something else.

People are worth more than things.

Idolizing things is . . . uhhhhh . . . idolatry.


2,386 posted on 06/04/2008 7:53:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne; 1000 silverlings
I should just pray for St. Mary to bless the one who says them.

You're serious?
2,534 posted on 06/05/2008 10:32:50 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Judith Anne; 1000 silverlings; OLD REGGIE; Quix; DungeonMaster; John Leland 1789; Alex Murphy; ...
Because I love the Church, derogatory things said about it tend to rile me. I should just pray for St. Mary to bless the one who says them.

???

But we're so often told that Catholics do not pray to Mary, and yet here you are, doing just that.

In fact, even your tag makes that grave error...

"(I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)"

Praying to Mary to soften Protestant hearts? The Bible tells us that is the work and office and responsibility and joy of the Holy Spirit to do exactly that. And yet here you are giving over the work of the Holy Spirit to Mary, a now-deceased creature who was just as fallen as you and me.

Nowhere in Scripture are we told to pray to anyone other than the Triune God alone.

And here you are praying for Mary to fulfill the purpose of the Holy Spirit.

Incredible. Read the Bible and learn the truth.

"But God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God...

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 2:10-12;16


"Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his spirit.

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." -- 1 John 4:13-15

Years ago I read that as much as anything else he did or wrote, Calvin re-asserted the truth of the Holy Spirit in the lives of Christ's flock which had been all but extinguished by the RCC. Sadly, after years on this forum, it's clear that same obscuring and nullifying of the work of the Holy Spirit continues on through the teachings of Rome to this day.

2,623 posted on 06/05/2008 12:31:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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