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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God understands what we need before we even ask. God hears all prayers, but He knows our prayers before we say them. He knows what we require before we ask. He knows what will become of us even as we pray for something to occur or not occur.

There's some good Calvinist doctrine which puts God in a box, eviscerates human life of meaning and eliminates the concept of free will. If what you say is true, then why pray at all? It's this kind of logic that leads some Protestants to universalism, then to agnosticism, and ultimately, atheism.

As for me, I don't presume to understand the actions of Almighty God. If He chooses to hear the prayers of the saints in heaven, who am I to say that He doesn't? If He chooses to hear the prayers of sinners on Earth, who am I to say that He shouldn't?

Again, the humility thing seems to be an issue for some of my separated brethren.
1,882 posted on 06/04/2008 11:04:29 AM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: Antoninus
DR.E.: God understands what we need before we even ask. God hears all prayers, but He knows our prayers before we say them. He knows what we require before we ask. He knows what will become of us even as we pray for something to occur or not occur.

I find it astounding a Christian could disagree with that statement. Read your Bible and learn the truth.

"For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive?" -- 1 Corinthians 4:7

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." -- Matthew 6:7-8

Again, the humility thing seems to be an issue for some of my separated brethren.

LOL. It's not the reformed who disbelieve God's word or think they know more than He does or presume to take the glory that belongs to God alone and carelessly disperse it among the creatures as if it were their own.

Per your dismissal of my statement...

Does God not understand what we need before we even ask?

Does God not hear all prayers?

Does God not know our prayers before we say them?

Does God not know what we require before we ask?

Does God not know what will become of us even as we pray for something to occur or not occur?

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." -- Jeremiah 10:23

1,920 posted on 06/04/2008 11:57:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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