To: maryz
Actually, the role of the magisterium has been more to correct utterly wrong interpretations (which happens rather infrequently) than to provide a line-by-line guide, which it doesn't do. +1
Many on the other side either will not or can not get this. Their persistent image is that somewhere in the bowels of the Vatican is a group, not unlike the Watchtower for the Witnesses, which tells us what to believe, ow to read each line of Scripture and what to think on every single issue, whether real or anticipated.
This is of course entirely wrong, but to see that requires giving up the notion that we neither inhale nor exhale without looking over our shoulders for the Vatican's okay. But that's a central tenet of their opposition to us, and another example of how what they oppose is not the Church as it is, but something which is largely a figment of their own imagination.
1,005 posted on
06/02/2008 11:54:39 AM PDT by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg
It would be sooooo much better for the Body of Christ and for individuals’ souls
IF
that last sentence was remotely correct.
Yes, words are usually approximations.
I’m much more confident of the bulk of our Protty approximations of what we OBSERVE about the RC edifice
than I remotely could ever be about what I observe in the RC approximations describing what Scriptures mean.
1,009 posted on
06/02/2008 12:15:04 PM PDT by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: Mad Dawg; maryz
"... but to see that requires giving up the notion that we neither inhale nor exhale without looking over our shoulders for the Vatican's okay."
And some believe you are instructed to submit your will and intellect to the Bishops, the Pope, and the Magisterium. Further, anything they say or write is a teaching. Now where did they get that idea?
Canon 752 Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it.
Canon 753 Although the bishops who are in communion with the head and members of the college, whether individually or joined together in conferences of bishops or in particular councils, do not possess infallibility in teaching, they are authentic teachers and instructors of the faith for the Christian faithful entrusted to their care; the Christian faithful are bound to adhere with religious submission of mind to the authentic magisterium of their bishops.
Or, are you not covered by The Code Of Canon Law?
1,055 posted on
06/02/2008 1:24:58 PM PDT by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: Mad Dawg
but something which is largely a figment of their own imagination. Some do seem to spend too much time in their own heads (and their own interpretations!) so to speak -- must be hot and stuffy there, like what Chesterton says about the insane (from memory): We say of the lunatic that he has holes in his head; rather we should say that he doesn't have enough holes in his head -- he should let some fresh air in! :)
1,058 posted on
06/02/2008 1:29:14 PM PDT by
maryz
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