To: Mad Dawg; maryz
"... but to see that requires giving up the notion that we neither inhale nor exhale without looking over our shoulders for the Vatican's okay."
And some believe you are instructed to submit your will and intellect to the Bishops, the Pope, and the Magisterium. Further, anything they say or write is a teaching. Now where did they get that idea?
Canon 752 Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it.
Canon 753 Although the bishops who are in communion with the head and members of the college, whether individually or joined together in conferences of bishops or in particular councils, do not possess infallibility in teaching, they are authentic teachers and instructors of the faith for the Christian faithful entrusted to their care; the Christian faithful are bound to adhere with religious submission of mind to the authentic magisterium of their bishops.
Or, are you not covered by The Code Of Canon Law?
1,055 posted on
06/02/2008 1:24:58 PM PDT by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: OLD REGGIE
when they exercise the authentic magisterium About 99.99% (at a conservative estimate) of what they say doesn't even come close. Their personal opinions don't count.
1,061 posted on
06/02/2008 1:33:29 PM PDT by
maryz
To: OLD REGGIE; Mad Dawg; maryz
And some believe you are instructed to submit your will and intellect to the Bishops, the Pope, and the Magisterium. Further, anything they say or write is a teaching. Now where did they get that idea? You seem to miss the term "faith and morals," these are specific areas, not EVERYTHING.
I'm curious, what MORAL teachings of the Catholic Church are you opposed to? I know that many Protestants have relaxed or even abandoned their opposition to divorce, contraception, abortion, ordination of women and homosexuality. So, which of the Church's moral teachings do YOU disagree with?
1,062 posted on
06/02/2008 1:35:00 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: OLD REGGIE
So, unless I misunderstand you, you are agreeing that we can read the Bible without consulting the Magisterium at every step. Good.
1,123 posted on
06/02/2008 4:24:44 PM PDT by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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