The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[mgist]

Mary said, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word." (CONSENT) Then the angel departed from her. Luke 1 38-39

[Marysecretary]

No, dear one, I’m not distorting his image. A Christian is a person who is saved. What’s so difficult about that? A Christian is a person who has asked the Lord Jesus Christ to come into his or her heart, to dwell there. Christians are not merely church goers, at least not true and born again believers. I fear that’s a big divide between us and that saddens me. Baptism won’t save you. Mary can’t save you. The Eucharist can’t save you. It’s only Jesus, whom God sent into the world to save the world (meaning us). What is so difficult about that?

I know you are sincere, mgist, and I appreciate your posts, but the Bible tells us how to be saved. That’s how I know. It IS universal knowledge for the believer—God’s Holy Word.

[Religion Moderator]

you totally ignore

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Reading the mind of another poster is a form of "making it personal."

[Marysecretary]

I’ve had it happen to me from one of the RC’s. Had the religion mod’s name right on it.

[mgist]

I showed that link to my wife and children, it is just too cool.

You find that picture cool, I find it to be typical of the disrespectfull and distorted representation of what is Holy, by some who claim to be saved and all knowing. That's just my personal opinion.

[Marysecretary]

Yes, I did. And she is.

[John Leland 1789]

The only ones who inseminate without consent are rapists.

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Is this not an understanding of sex and procreation from merely the naturalistic, physical side of things. We are not talking about a man jumping into a bed with a woman here for sensual or erotic pleasure.

[Marysecretary]

How cute is that???????????

[Marysecretary]

Yes, it really is!

[wmfights]

We are not perfect, and neither are you.

You are right I'm not perfect, but more importantly I'm forgiven.

There is a big difference between discussing the differences in beliefs and being critical of ideas, from taking it to a level of slander, misquoting, calumny, and personal attacks on individuals.

This is the problem of perception.

The RCC makes all kind of claims that have no Scriptural support that when criticized are then viewed as slanders by RC's. I'll give you an example calling your clergy father and believing they have "magic fingers", or calling Mary "co-redeemer".

The religion moderator created "ecumenic" threads for those that are easily offended.

[OLD REGGIE]

I never heard of deMontort and probably won’t read him.

You can find much of de Montfort on-line for free. I guarantee you will enjoy it. It is actually funny. (Not deliberately so but amusing nonetheless).

[Marysecretary]

Oh, okay. Thanks for letting me know.

[wmfights]

Oh my gosh, that is just too good!

[Marysecretary]

Uh, Petronski, I was being a tad sarcastic?

[OLD REGGIE]

As Our Lord was human, He would act in a human way. She didn’t have to ask, He would treat His mother differently, as most humans do.

He never did.

[wmfights]

You find that picture cool, I find it to be typical of the disrespectfull and distorted representation of what is Holy, by some who claim to be saved and all knowing. That's just my personal opinion.

Maybe we are talking about different things. The cell adhesion protein Laminin that binds all the cells together is in the form of a cross. We are bound together with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit because of the cross.

God reveals himself to us in lots of different ways including nature. When evidence of this is in front of us I think it is just so cool that God gives us this evidence.

[OLD REGGIE]

Look for Vatican.va for the real quotes, Dear Sister in Christ.

By golly I did just that. I, as a dyed-in-the-wool skeptic was left with the impression of "typical Catholic doubletalk".

Please explain it to me.

[OLD REGGIE]

I'm not sure why I would want to do that, unless the person you refer to has a habit of flaming the Catholic church.

That makes sense. One Catholic says A., another Catholic says B. and you are both right. Congratulations!

[mgist]

I can understand that. Catholics also understand that we only have One Savior. Since we know the path to heaven is narrow, we choose to look to the many gifts that God has given us to stay on the narrow path. Every individual Catholic has their own practices, for example, the Rosary, which meditates on Christs passion, may help some people stay close to God. We are all different and how a person chooses to stay faithfull is up to him.

I'm glad that you feel entitled to enter the kingdom of God just having asked, but it is a long and bumpy road. Good luck with that. I tend to get lost and don't even realize it, especially when I am away from the church.

Matthew 19

Now someone approached him and said, "Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?" 17 He answered him, "Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. 13 If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."