Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
So, you don’t believe the passage from Luke? It seems to me that Christ was very clear....
Confession is good for the soul.
Thanks for the affirmation of objective reality.
Sadly, I haven’t seen tons of evidence that some folks think objective reality is properly in the same universe with the RC edifice.
20:27 Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
So Jesus is confirming that there is or will be, resurrection.
2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
“...unwitting RC’s who may not be that Biblically knowledgeable and/or not that used to thinking things through.”
If that’s how you think of us, how do YOU interpret that passage from Luke?
>>I happen to like the extra help from Mother Mary, if you are perfect without her, God bless you. <<
Oh I’m far from perfect!
And I agree with you fully.
But actually, even being Catholic, we are not required to believe in any of the apparitions and I know people who don’t. Whatever floats their boat. Not as much in the parish that I am now but in my last, many people didn’t believe in apparitions.
Go figure.
I can almost guarantee you are quoting Old Testament. With Jesus we have a new covenant with God. In the old days pagan people practiced things similar to the Oija, Santeria, Tarot Reading etc. These are HIGHLY offensive to God.
On the other hand, Angels are real, God's entire kingdom is real, if we call on God's servants to help us, in the name of God, that is very different that practicing a séance(SP?), for example.
I understand you point. God's kingdom is love, the other "world" is not. Santeria is practiced to this day, it is definitely offensive to God. Those poor people don't realize it.
It is a problem in the Catholic church, when third world countries were converted, many people maintained their "traditions" and mixed them with Catholisim. Only God's love and mercy will help them change their ways.
We have to pray for them, not curse them.
Yes, but in Luke Christ says the “dead” are like angels...?
>>So, you don’t believe the passage from Luke? It seems to me that Christ was very clear....<<
I think it’s pretty clear.
I just don’t see any prottie interpretation of that passage from Luke....
Would you be able to explain to me
how RC’s . . . bright, objective, fair-minded RC’s . . . I’m told there are some somewhere and I’m inclined to believe it as I’ve known some . . .
How on earth do bright fair-minded RC’s
objectively
tell the difference between
1. a true Heavenly visitation/manifestation
vs
2. a carefully crafted super far advanced technologically staged hoax foisted on the world by other dimensional critters or even ET’s?
Even Scripture warns about angels of light preaching any other ‘gospel.’
Christ didn’t mince any words, did He?
Well all that means is that they are now spirits. As to whether or not they are resurrected at this moment, it doesn’t say. What constitutes being “present with the Lord”, I don’t know. Other scripture asserts that “the dead know nothing”.
INDEED.
BTW, got it saved on my 8 gig flash drive with the file of other interesting posts from the Rel Forum.
I can understand people who don’t believe in apparitions. That’s OK. My curiosity got the best of me. The messages are amazing. There is NO doubt, to me, that God is there. I happen to have a hunger for God. What a blessing.
>>We have to pray for them, not curse them.<<
You are the first person I have ever seen say this!
Good for you and Amen!
Mary is not dead.
Not that I can see!
I don’t have any difficulty believing that you understand that well, Dear Heart.
However, I’m not a blind idiot. It doesn’t take a psychologist to detect dripping bitterness and hate toward individuals. The denial of that on the one hand coupled with absolutely incorrect allegations that Prottys hate individual RC’s . . .
is more than a little much.
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