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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: All
May 30, 1996

MESSAGE FROM OUR LORD THROUGH FR. JACK SPAULDING AT ST. MARIA GORETTI CHURCH, SCOTTSDALE, AZ

"My dear ones, I come to you this night from My Father as the Incarnation of His Mercy to you. My dear ones, I do not have pity on you. I give instead My Mercy. I ask each of you this night the same question I asked of Bartemeus, "What do you want Me to do for you?" My dear ones, I have been waiting for you to answer that question for a long, long time in your terms. I wait still.

Listen to the example of Bartemeus. "Lord, he said, I want to see." My dear ones, so many are still so blind. If you only ask to see, I will heal your blindness. And once your blindness is healed, you will be able to see. You will be able to see Me in everything you do. And so, I the Mercy of your God, I your Lord and your Savior asks again, what do you want Me to do for you?

---- (long pause)---- Be healed, My dear ones, of your blindness. See Me, and see yourself as God, My Father and your Father, sees you. Do not be afraid to see. I am with you. I am within you. Look at Me and be healed. I love you. I am with you always."

http://www.apparitions.org/Scot_msg96.html#a /

I don't think our Lord cares if we are Catholic or whatever. He wants us to love him. Catholics have certainly been given many gifts, what we do will them is up to us. All of us.

2,081 posted on 06/04/2008 2:28:32 PM PDT by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: Mad Dawg; Quix
Yes. I think some hate Catholicism.

Yes.

But I think some hate us, plain and simple.

No.

You need to learn the difference.

2,082 posted on 06/04/2008 2:32:36 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Mad Dawg

RCs remind me of the guy naked in bed with a woman not his wife and his wife walks in on them. “Honey its not what you think. Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?”

You have taken the Faith of Jesus of Nazareth, as taught to the Desciples and handed down directly to The Body of Christ ... us ... and turned it into a human institution. A State institution at that.

1600 years of history for all of us to plainly see and a Bible to compare the RC faith to the True Faith and its clear to anyone not brainwashed or in on the plot.

We believe our eyes.


2,083 posted on 06/04/2008 2:32:40 PM PDT by gost2
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To: wagglebee

I don’t know of any here who hate the RC edifice wholesale and certainly not Mary.


2,084 posted on 06/04/2008 2:33:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Antoninus; Marysecretary
As I asked your co-argumentrix, please respond to this statement:

It is impossible for God to heal someone at the behest of one of His saints in heaven.

That's a stupid statement.

God heals who He will heal. A request by a Saint will not cause God to change His mind.

2,085 posted on 06/04/2008 2:34:42 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Well, see the RC's think that Christ has to do what Mary says.
2,086 posted on 06/04/2008 2:36:24 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: gost2
We believe ours eyes

That's fine, but you really don't even understand what we believe. Only that you don't like it. I'm sure no Catholic has told you that the way you worship our savior is wrong. We are taught humility and love. Our faith doesn't allow for that. We are not perfect, that we can agree on. Are you?

2,087 posted on 06/04/2008 2:37:41 PM PDT by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: Mr. K
ok then tell me on what basis you decide to do something other than what God says to do in the bible?

On the basis of the Bible, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium of the Church.

2,088 posted on 06/04/2008 2:38:17 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: fortheDeclaration
That is a tactic of the RCC, always leave itself some 'wiggle' room to deny an blatent heresy, but wink at it on the side.

Such foul calumny.

2,089 posted on 06/04/2008 2:39:09 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Well, see the RC's think that Christ has to do what Mary says.

Lord forgive those who slander against us, for they know not what they do!!!!!

2,090 posted on 06/04/2008 2:39:11 PM PDT by mgist (Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hear)
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To: Antoninus; Marysecretary
See tagline.

See John 6:63.
2,091 posted on 06/04/2008 2:39:48 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: netmilsmom

Still bad, you are implying Protestants, not some unknown “one”


2,092 posted on 06/04/2008 2:39:58 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: mgist

No, that is what you yourselves tell us, using the wedding at Cana as your example.


2,093 posted on 06/04/2008 2:41:35 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

>>I don’t know of any here who hate the RC edifice wholesale and certainly not Mary.<<

I agree with this (well maybe one or two - there are no absolutes) but when a person posts something to the effect of, “When I see someone’s tagline, it makes me gag.”, it’s not love.

Let me type the words, “Holy Mother of God, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.” People do hate it and stated such.

It’s okay though, it’s an open thread. We are allowed to say such things but should not personalized it as, The person gagging Hates me. It’s not me, it’s my words that person hates.


2,094 posted on 06/04/2008 2:41:59 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: gost2

The Catholic Church was founded by Christ circa AD 32.


2,095 posted on 06/04/2008 2:42:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: gost2

The Catholic Church was founded by Christ circa AD 32.


2,096 posted on 06/04/2008 2:42:46 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Well, see the RC's think that Christ has to do what Mary says.

The Catholic Church does not teach that.

2,097 posted on 06/04/2008 2:44:34 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Marysecretary

>>Still bad, you are implying Protestants, not some unknown “one”<<

Well no, actually I’ve seen people personalize another’s post from many different sides.

I hate when someone gives a reference without a citation. Do I hate that person? Oh Goodness, no!

It goes round and round.


2,098 posted on 06/04/2008 2:44:39 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: 1000 silverlings

False.


2,099 posted on 06/04/2008 2:45:37 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
[That is a tactic of the RCC, always leave itself some 'wiggle' room to deny an blatent heresy, but wink at it on the side.]

Such foul calumny.

On the contrary, my statement is all to true.

2,100 posted on 06/04/2008 2:45:57 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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