The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[OLD REGGIE]

The Catholic Encyclopedia is not "official" Catholic Teaching. Even so, rather than cut & paste, will you explain what it actually says, including an explanation of the numerous footnotes? The world awaits!

Catholic Teaching - The Catechism of The Catholic Church.

600 To God, all moments of time are present in their immediacy. When therefore he establishes his eternal plan of "predestination", he includes in it each person's free response to his grace: "In this city, in fact, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place." For the sake of accomplishing his plan of salvation, God permitted the acts that flowed from their blindness.

[andysandmikesmom]

Thank you for your kind remarks...

[oneolcop]

While I stated that He is just, I also avere that He is loving. I say this because the two are not mutually exclusive. I personally see the consequences of our actions coming. But I don't believe that it is "punishment" per se, but rather the exploitation of the opportunity we provided by our indiscipline by the devil(s).

God gives us the "rules" and we either to choose them or not. The consequences are the result of our actions. God, like a loving Father, wishes us to obey the rules, but He does not force us. That, it seems to me is the "free will" part of our relationship with Him.

While you state that the bible says He took out about 50,000 Israelites at one time, how do we know that it was not the consequence of their own actions that took them out. God does not have to be "angry", that is a human word for a human characteristic. (Back to the I Am, Who Am. thing)

Should I be afraid of God? Or of my own failures...

[MarkBsnr]

***will you explain what it actually says, including an explanation of the numerous footnotes? The world awaits!***

Actually I think that you’ve done a good job all by yourself.

*** When therefore he establishes his eternal plan of “predestination”, he includes in it each person’s free response to his grace***

I bet you didn’t know that you had it in you.

[OLD REGGIE]

I’m one of the paid front men for a shadowy organization based in the lower rooms of the Vatican. I’d like to check out your favorite hate group to see how it reflects your postings; to see how effective its teachings are on some of the star pupils.

The Society Of Jesus. We've been banned by the Catholic Church, we've been suppressed, but we continue strong and working within. Our destiny is to control the Catholic Church. Care to be one of us?

How large was your class and what was your standing at graduation?

If I told you I'd have to kill you.

[OLD REGGIE]

I bet you didn’t know that you had it in you.

I knew very well that I had it in me to predict you'd give a "no answer" answer.

[MarkBsnr]

***I knew very well that I had it in me to predict you’d give a “no answer” answer.***

Why would I answer a question that you had already correctly answered? I don’t want to take any of the limelight away from you on those occasions that you get it right.

[Alex Murphy]

Would you like a drink instead?

"Hey, you're the guy who made my head hot! Well, you're not going to make my friends' heads hot!"
- The Tick, from The Tick vs. The Mole-Men

[MarkBsnr]

***The Society Of Jesus***

Sounds promising.

***We’ve been banned by the Catholic Church, we’ve been suppressed, but we continue strong and working within. ***

A fellow traveller?

***Our destiny is to control the Catholic Church. Care to be one of us? ***

You have expressed some anti Catholic thoughts in the past. I’d have to pass, but thank you for your kind off.

***If I told you I’d have to kill you.***

:)

[MarkBsnr]

:)

[wagglebee]

That’s not the point, Dr. E. and others want to say that the Assumption didn’t exist for 1800 years. This was demonstrated to be false.

[MarkBsnr]

***What kind of lunatic is going to entrust their everlasting soul to a guess?***

It is worse than a guess.

Proverb 16:

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How much better to acquire wisdom than gold! To acquire understanding is more desirable than silver.
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The path of the upright avoids misfortune; he who pays attention to his way safeguards his life.
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Pride goes before disaster, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
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It is better to be humble with the meek than to share plunder with the proud.

We face the proud, full of hubris and sure of the ability to be their own Pope and declare their own doctrine. We have those who openly preach the theology of death and their sycophants and supporters, who do not yet openly preach it.

As Kellogg created Corn Flakes, so the brightest angel created YOPIOS.

[MarkBsnr]

***I am one who believes there is no “perfect” translation but there are many which are “sufficient”.***

***I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.***

I am gratified that you understand the difference between belief and knowing. It is not ‘sufficient’, yet it is better than the nothing that you claim to know.

[Mad Dawg]

I'm sorry it struck you that way. It was not meant that way.

If this were anywhere else than this contentious forum I wouldn't say this, but here we are, so here I go:
It's important to know the difference between what is in one's own head and what is in somebody else's head. And if one has any reason not to be sure, it's good to check.

[Mad Dawg]

Mrs. enat will gladly tell you what he meant and he will readily agree.

I will now say the blessing one says when he sees a wise man.

[Petronski]

You’re claiming you’re a Jesuit?

[Mad Dawg]

You’re claiming you’re a Jesuit?

Well, he says he's a Uitarian and he knows everything. It just might be ....

[Petronski]

LOL

[MarkBsnr]

Possibly he could be a Utilitarian. That way he could do everything.

[MarkBsnr]

***All anyone has to do is read Calvin and decide for themselves.***

What are you talking about? Under Calvin there is no decision. Without the Reformed Holy Spirit there is no decision.

You folks are funny. Extremely inconsistent and untrue to stated claims, but funny.