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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Mad Dawg

They also use this belief that God hated Esau to justify their belief in selective salvation.

This is what happens when someone uses their own personal interpretation of Scripture and then teaches it as truth.

Esau thrived and that is obvious from the Bible but 2 little verses, taken out of context are used to prove that there are elect and non-elect.


10,361 posted on 06/30/2008 12:27:28 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg
The Church's Bible says otherwise, I am rather disinterested what your insufficient, incomplete and heretical translation says.

Dr. E., is the NAB (a fully authorized Catholic Bible) your personal Bible?
10,362 posted on 06/30/2008 12:29:55 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It can't be both.

It's all about YOUR INTENT. You believed you were wishing something on me quite horrible.

10,363 posted on 06/30/2008 12:30:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix

Judith Anne, I am with you here about that post...perhaps the one making that post, would care to explain it further for the slow-witted(that would be me)...because I am not sure exactly what is meant in that post...

By the way, Judith Anne, I am very glad to see you back, and I am quite sure, many many others, feel the same as I, regarding your return...


10,364 posted on 06/30/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: OLD REGGIE

Mark 7:15.

A lot of things are coming from within.


10,365 posted on 06/30/2008 12:32:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee

I try not to waste time with rhetorical questions like yours.


10,366 posted on 06/30/2008 12:33:20 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

Answered.


10,367 posted on 06/30/2008 12:34:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

Fruits of the Spirit.


10,368 posted on 06/30/2008 12:35:57 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I try not to waste time with rhetorical questions like yours.

How can it possibly be rhetorical? Do you adhere to everything in the chapter or not? A simple yes or no will suffice.

10,369 posted on 06/30/2008 12:36:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: andysandmikesmom

10,370 posted on 06/30/2008 12:37:37 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wagglebee; Judith Anne
No, your questions are answered.

It's just that a correct answer given according to the evidence of Scripture takes more time than the simple-minded responses from Catholics on the order of "sez you!" and "you're so mean!"

10,371 posted on 06/30/2008 12:37:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

Thanks for all that vast Scriptural rebuttal.


10,372 posted on 06/30/2008 12:38:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

This is about YOU proving man has no free will.

It can’t be done.


10,373 posted on 06/30/2008 12:40:05 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Judith Anne; Petronski; MarkBsnr
Do you hope to be blessed as Esau was blessed or not?

Because Petronski and MarkBsnr have told us they hope for it.

10,374 posted on 06/30/2008 12:41:10 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee

Not to mention all the time it takes to Scripture-google a few of the words so an answer can be cut and pasted.

I was just wondering about that commandment from Christ that a person must leave their gift at the altar, and go and make peace with their brother, THEN come back and make an offering to God.

So far, that has not been addressed. But never mind, I understand it, and faithfully observe it in the breech.


10,375 posted on 06/30/2008 12:41:46 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

San Francisco cereal, you mean?


10,376 posted on 06/30/2008 12:41:47 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee
How can it possibly be rhetorical?

Simple: if the issue of believing the entirety of First Timothy has never come up in reality.

10,377 posted on 06/30/2008 12:42:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: MarkBsnr

ROFL! Took me by surprise! :D


10,378 posted on 06/30/2008 12:42:45 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
No, your questions are answered.

No, it is not!

Do you yourself conform to ALL of Saint Paul's mandates in the second chapter of his First Epistle to Timothy? YES or NO.

10,379 posted on 06/30/2008 12:43:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mad Dawg

I meant to go on. In Luke, Jesus says; “If anyone comes to me and does not HATE his father and mother, his wife and children, his brother and sisters –yes, even his own life –he cannot be my disciple.”

So we should disregard one of the Ten Commandments? Then there is Jesus’ Commandment that we love God above all and our neighbors as ourselves should be thrown by the wayside?

If we disregard those 2 things do we also disregard the one about loving God above all?

I’d hate to be a Calvinist and think that most of my family and friends are probably going to hell.


10,380 posted on 06/30/2008 12:43:12 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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