Posted on 05/28/2008 10:23:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
>> I feel the same way about the anti-Catholic and Scientology bashers, <<
As screwed up as I believe the Mormon faith is, there is a very good cause for the severity of those who “bash” scientology. Scientology is anti-Democratic, violent, and demands ever-increasing sums of money from its victims. It’s a pyramid scheme-turned-organized crime racket, that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity, but nonetheless uses a cross as its symbol and calls itself a church.
>>>> One thing I learned today: Joe Smith contradicted his own scripture when he advocated polygamy. (Or does anyone know if that was added later on to the book of Mormon.) <<<<
I was referring to this, which, in spite of its preposterous grammar seems to say “For there shall not be any among you, except those having one wife, and having no concubines.”:
>> Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none <<
Did I miss the sing-a-long? I always go to bed before the sing-a-long!
Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!
Holy, holy, holy! All the saints adore Thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee,
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.
Holy, holy, holy! though the darkness hide Thee,
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see;
Only Thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.
Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
All Thy works shall praise Thy Name, in earth, and sky, and sea;
Holy, holy, holy; merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!
Elsie, have you just invented Mormon Bingo?
Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!
Holy, holy, holy! All the saints adore Thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee,
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.
Holy, holy, holy! though the darkness hide Thee,
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see;
Only Thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.
Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
All Thy works shall praise Thy Name, in earth, and sky, and sea;
Holy, holy, holy; merciful and mighty!
I love that song...
Sang it when I was a child in the Anglican Church...
Yes, well, there’s lot’s of TRUTH from the Bible in that song for unbelievers to refute
LOL
No man hath seen God at any time
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Exactly...
You are right, Resty...
The false prophet Joseph Smith did NOT “see” God...
Since the LDS believe in pre mortal existence
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They can “believe” all they want to Resty,
But man has no “pre-mortal state” before conception...
He is in the sperm and the egg before that...
As mortal as his Mom and Dad...
BTW The LDS testifies that what we have in our scriptures come from the Lord in the latter days because of the various hands and the influence over the Bible such as Plato and other philosophies down through the ages!
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Resty, surely you dont claim that Plato had any influence on the writing of The Bible ???????????
Paul himself stood on Mars Hill and denounced the gods of the Greeks and Grecian philosphy..
we choose to return to him someday!
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No, Resty, there’s no “returning”
We didnt exist in any sphere, dimension, etc before we were human...
and here on Earth
But we will get to go to Heaven when we die...
If we have repented of our sins and accepted Jesus as our Savior...
Imagine spending eternity...
Worshipping Jesus, the Lamb of God...
before the Throne of God...
with millions of other believers...
(be they Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Anglican, etc)
Forever...
Sound great doesnt it ??????
Will I see you there ????
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I seem to be doing an Elsiethon here
:)
LOL
I like the Lord’s version better Justice for all, in my Fathers house are many mansion I go and prepare a place for you, the 3 degress of glory all will have salvation except the SOP.
Those who keep the Lord’s Commandments will be exalted in the Celestial glory, the just men will have Terrestrial glory and the contentious, theifs, murders, liars, etc will have Telestial glory and the Sons of Perdition will be sent to outter darkness for all eternity!
the 3 degress of glory all will have salvation except the SOP.
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Say what ???
Jhn 14:1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Jhn 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.
Jhn 14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
Jhn 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jhn 14:7 ¶ If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jhn 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?
Jhn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Jhn 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
Jhn 14:12 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Jhn 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it].
Jhn 14:15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Jhn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Jhn 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Jhn 14:25 ¶ These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you.
Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jhn 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Jhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Jhn 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Jhn 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. John 14:1-31
I can read your words; but do they come from the mind of man - or GOD?
WHERE is the SCRIPTURE to backup EACH of these accusations?
Then did you post the JOHN scripture to illustrate a part of the BIBLE that's not translated right?
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
We know.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Nothing about any “3 degress of glory”
or “all will have salvation except the SOP” The what ???
Or “the celestial glory”
Or any “terrestrial glory”
Or any “sons of perdition” Who are they ???
among the Words of Jesus in the 14th Chapter of John...
For what?
Saying those things??
Nope; your leaders did that entirely on their own.
"We report - you decide" still works.
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