Posted on 05/14/2008 9:06:42 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
Important points, I thnk.
Thanks.
LOLOLOLOL
My sensibilities are entirely with your perspective.
LOL.
Sigh . . .
There was great caterwauling about the idea of “respectful dialogue” too.
Know them by their fruit.
NET: I guess we all have to be a little less repelled, don't we?
I would like to meet the Protestant who is not repelled by the sentence, "Mary is the co-redeemer."
Show of hands?
A story of conversion at the Lamb of God Shrine (posted by NYer, pinged by me)
Others mention Catholicism as fulness of the Christian faith, but are not critical of other denominations:
Alex Jones: the evangelical who became a Catholic deacon
Lastly, some of my recent threads are simple how-to conversion manuals, yet this one got so contentious that it got locked:
Would the very background of conversion from one confession to another disqualify them, or would those of them that do not specifically critique other denominations be allowed as Ecumenical?
Looks like some of our RC friends have cried ‘foul’ enough times to get their way. Hmm. Are some of them afraid to argue that their beliefs are true? I can only hope that God will convict them of the truth, but some hearts won’t allow that, I’m sure. Sad about that.
Okay. Then I am really, positively repelled by the idea that Mary is considered as the "co-redeemer" among any Christian believer.
lol.
All three of those threads could have been tagged “ecumenic” or “open” depending on the type of discussion you wished to encourage.
That seems to defeat the whole idea of a caucus. A caucus is where one is free to speak about any subject relevant to the belief that is being discussed, and if that means comparing Calvinism to Pelagianism or Arminianism or Catholicism or Methodism, then that should not automatically open the thread to outside contention. The problem we have here on the Religion Forum is that when you have some kind of caucus, invariably some other faith is brought into the discussion for purposes of comparison or to "caucus" about the various answers to specific claims and when you mix it up like that, you end up with endless contentious threads and eventually the thread gets pulled and people get suspended.
If I am a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it is most likely because I have rejected some other doctrine from some other church and to preclude closed discussions of why one became a Spaghetti Monster believer or to compare Spaghetti Worship with Sacred Cow worship is to simply destroy the whole idea of a caucus.
Not to rain on your parade, but I think the idea of a caucus among members of a particular sect or faith where you can't differentiate between the caucus members and the non-caucus members is silly.
We are members of particular sects and we hold to specific beliefs at least in part, if not in whole, because we have rejected the beliefs of those who are not a part of our sect or faith.
FWIW, I think the Mormons ought to have their own caucus threads where they can go and not be disturbed by anyone who is not a Mormon and where they can discuss whatever they want to believe as long as they don't make personal attacks against specific freepers in the process. This should apply to Catholics, Protestants, Spaghetti Monster believers, Hare Krishnas, whatever. After all a caucus is supposed to be a caucus.
Also this would free you up from having referee whether or not the Caucus designation should be removed. That must take up a lot of your time.
“every individual just post their very own caucus thread and talk to themselves, then youll be safe”
Norman Bates calling Dr. Phil!
“So on an ecumenic thread, we could not preface that comment with “No, Mary is not a co-redeemer because...?”
“Because sometimes that phrase is simply used to redefine the discussion when replying to a post from a few days earlier.”
I guess you would be better off to restate the other’s position or quote him:
“You say Mary is the co-redeemer in post #45. I believe ...”
“Why not open up a new forum, “The Tender Feelings Forum” for those who can’t handle opposition to their beliefs?”
ROFLMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol, “How’s that working for you Norman?”
Your argument has merit and I will consider it and get back to you and everyone with a decision. For now, the old caucus rules still apply. So a Calvinist Caucus can speak of Calivinist beliefs but not compare them to other beliefs.
Clicking on News or Religion is what filters the posts.
Or perhaps
THE THIN-SKINNED TAXIDERMY REFURBISHER’S THREAD
LOL.
” I would like to meet the Protestant who is not repelled by the sentence, “Mary is the co-redeemer.”
“Show of hands?”
LOL! As the smart kid in grammar school, who doesn’t want his classmates to hate him, I too, am sitting on my hands. That sentence is repugnant (a word from Pinky and the Brain) to anyone who knows the Gospel.
Is there really an insistence that we go there . . .
on THIS thread???
Sigh.
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