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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
ROTFL!
concinced should be convinced. Thank you and carry on my wayward son.
>>You don’t get to determine what is important to me.<<
Truly, I never said I did. I will however say that beating a dead horse gets one no where.
I’m not here to stop you either. Really.
I’m so sorry. I do like mine though!
>>Oh, really? Go back and read your own posts<<
LOL! And look at how far it’s gotten!!!!
>> A shame really.<<
Agreed!
So, how’s the weather out your way? ;)
Why thank you for asking. Cold! and getting colder! ;-).
Did you ever stop to think that maybe that is just who Mormons are? I mean, I can remember criticizing Mormons as Stepford wives because they were always so nice and sweet and compliant, and good housewives, too. I think that some people here, because they disagree on matters of faith, have been way too hard on Mormons. Maybe they are just genuinely NICE people.
Hmmmm....thanks. Can I try?
In my opinion only, Grig was calling Christians dirty names because they have defended the true Christ and Christianity; and have (I think) called out Mormonism for the cult that (in my Opinion) it is. Perchance he used the word pig to illicit an image of dirty, muddy beasts in need of a hosing down because he wanted to lash out in, perhaps, just perhaps, some childish anger he may, or may not, have. He didn't choose a kitty, a dog, a lamb, a hamster, a bunny rabbit, a dove, or any other creature as some freeper have suggested - but (maybe, just maybe) he deliberately chose a dirty pig because he wanted to (who knows?) put Christians who have come to the defense of the Gospel of Christ (which needs no "restoration" in my opinion) as dirty pigs. In fact his very words were, Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. This seems to be an indirect way of calling any freeper opposed to Mormons, swine. Just my two cents!
“Therefore if one would like to become Catholic, one must be rebaptized.”
One what?
Do you mean that if a Mormon wants to become Catholic he has to be baptized Christian or do you mean protestants as well?
By the way it was reading your posting history that reinforced my feeling that you were hostile to protestants.
How woooode!
>>Do you mean that if a Mormon wants to become Catholic he has to be baptized Christian or do you mean protestants as well?<<
Did you read the link? Geez it was right there.
>>By the way it was reading your posting history that reinforced my feeling that you were hostile to protestants.<<
Holy Crap! That’s going to be news to my long time Protestant husband! I better go tell him QUICK!!!!! Time to get the divorce papers out....Now where did I put that pen?
You’re pretty funny!
IMO, this sounds like mind-reading..."you know it all any ways right!"..or is it a compliment?
Legitimate questions, framed within forum guidelines, were recently deleted from one of your threads, questions as to the inordinate numbers of doctrinal harangues appearing under the News/Activism banner.
Kept in the Religion forum where they belong, y'all can obviously post all the 50,000 word nonsense the Robinsons and/or your ISP will tolerate.
But the deluge of this stuff in the 'News/Activism' forums seems to me not only to be a flagrant disregard for the very same forum guidelines the rest of us are supposed to operate under, but also diminishes the credibility and integrity of FreeRepublic as one of the few legitimate forums for the conservative political thoughts/views of the average joe.
If this post gets me banned from the site, so be it.
I've been around this site since '98 under a long forgotten login, and since '00 under this one.
I've logged a couple thousand miles and a couple dozen hours helping man the barricades against the marxist scum in DC.
I've also contributed financially to this site over the years.
I've never aspired to be one of prolific pens of FR because frankly my other interests and work keep my time too limited to allow it, but this is where I've chosen to get my NEWS for some time, posting random thoughts as they struck me, most often in a (hopefully) humorous vein, as God knows we've needed some smiles the past couple decades for sanity maintenance.
Having been a loyal and supportive FReeper for a long time, it's my considered opinion that the tacit policy decision to allow so much religion spamming in the News/Activism section works to the detriment of this site in particular, and conservatism in general.
If I had any inclination to find out more about LDS, there's a whole Internet out there and I can do my own damned research.
But if I'd had no previous exposure to FR and got here by whatever circuitous route and saw 14 threads about mormon stuff on my first visit, it'd be a real good bet I'd think I'd stumbled into a big mistake and would NOT be back.
If the Robinsons have chosen to take a different tack re the religious/secular, it is of course their site and their right; I do however find oddly 'coincidental' the timing of this apparent policy shift in the midst of Jim's recent hospitalization/recovery. (which I hope is quickly better, Jim :)
This wasn't/isn't intended to be an opus, but if that's the way it plays out, life will go on and I'll find something else to take it's place and/or just burrow deeper into the ol' bunker.
Cuz in the end I'm just one old guy who works with his hands out here in flyover; and folks like me have gotten kinda used to being ignored, and I've never been under any delusion that FR or the RightFight in this country can't manage without me.
And not that it's anybody's business, but I do believe in a God, but certainly not the one represented by these LDS threads/adherents.
/10yrs ?
>>One what?
Do you mean that if a Mormon wants to become Catholic he has to be baptized Christian or do you mean protestants as well?<<
Did you read the link? Geez it was right there.
It was a simple question and it doesn’t need a link, can’t you just tell me?
Yeah, but with this new format, we all have to see those remarks, and it just makes me cringe. It used to be that you could just skip the nasty threads, but now you see every post.
Well said & I have to agree.
Why? Can’t you read? Is your monitor for the blind?
My nephew’s best friend is blind and his audible monitor reads all sites. Try clicking it, you’ll see.
I really have no problem reading for you, but I already did the research for you, posted it and gave you a quick summary. It does need a link to a VATICAN document. Go there and read it yourself.
You seem to be typing okay. Are you sure you’re alright?
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