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Bill Donohue: Over the line?
dotCommonweal ^ | David Gibson

Posted on 05/03/2008 6:58:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Bill Donohue may not be tired of the culture wars–or internecine Catholic wars. The head of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is often over the top in denunciations of anti-Catholicism, real or perceived, and of other Catholics who Donohue sees as not toeing the proper Catholic line. But even Donohue may have outdone himself, and done in his own organization, if his latest press release prompts an IRS investigation.

The May 2 release is “Catholic Dissidents Advise Obama,” and it draws down on Obama’s Catholic National Advisory Committee, which includes several Commonwealers, such as Cathleen Kaveny and Grant Gallicho. It also includes Catholics in public and religious life, ranging from Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania to the Sister of St. Joseph, Sr. Catherine Pinkerton. Also included are more than a few writers and theologians whose work I have long admired. Point of disclosure: I have also known Bill Donohue for years, and while I think he is completely wrongheaded many times, and inimical to the church’s well-being other times, he can also be a good guy to have a beer with, as well as someone who does not run from an argument, and an advocate who can point out indisputable cases of anti-Catholicism that still persist.

That said, this latest blast is way outta line. Donohue not only labels these Obama-advising Catholics as “dissidents” but he says “Practicing Catholics have every right to be insulted by Obama’s advisory group”–setting up Catholics who back Obama as bad Catholics and opponents of Obama, by implication, as good Catholics. Donohue employs his favorite trick of the invidious–and distorting–comparison, saying he wouldn’t have gay advisors who “don’t reflect the sentiment of the gay community”–as if these Obama-backers don’t reflect Catholic opinion. (In fact, they largely do. Not that this should be about public opinion, no?)

In his closing, Donohue takes a real potshot, saying that “If these are the best ‘committed Catholic leaders, scholars and advocates’ Obama can find, then it is evident that he has a ‘Wright’ problem when it comes to picking Catholic advisors.” As if these Catholics–check out the list–are the equivalent of Jeremiah Wright…!

But let me dissect this a bit more analytically. I see four chief problems.

One is that Donohue bases his criticism of these dozens of advisors principally on the “scores” that the abortion rights group NARAL gives some of the political figures on the committee (conveniently not mentioning the presence of Democrats Bob Casey and Tim Roemer, also on Obama’s committee, who have taken stands against abortion rights in many cases). Donohue also states that Obama’s pol pals do not agree with the church’s “three major public policy issues: abortion, embryonic stem cell research and school vouchers.” That is a rather selective list, in that the bishops’ own statement on political participation, titled “Faithful Citizenship,” lists seven principal policy areas, and they include “Option for the Poor and Vulnerable,” “Dignity of Work and the Rights of Workers,” and “Caring for God’s Creation.” Not to mention the church’s opposition to the Iraq War, which John McCain wants to continue.

Indeed, while Donohue has criticized McCain’s alliance with the rock-ribbed televangelist and preacher of standard anti-Catholic rhetoric, John Hagee, he has not brought similar scrutiny to McCain’s own Catholic advisory board.

And that raises the second problem, which was noted by the liberal group, Catholics United, namely that Donohue’s apparent partisanship could jeopardize the League’s 501c3 non-profit status. Catholics United also cites passages from “Onward Christian Solders,” a new book by Deal Hudson–a longtime GOP advisor–that show how Donohue has been active in helping the Bush White House and the Republican Party woo the Catholic vote.

This adds up to a big potential problem for Donohue. Yet it also adds up to a big payday for him. As the League’s publicly-available financial forms show, Donohue takes in a whopping $343,000 a year in salary and compensation. He can rightly claim that he has turned the League from a penny-ante mom-and-pop shop into the $20-million-dollar a year culture war machine that it is. But while few would disagree with fighting anti-Catholicism, I wonder how many will see Donohue as getting rich off anti-Catholicism.

A final point: Pope Benedict XVI, who Donohue spares no effort to defend, even when the pontiff is not under attack, made an explicit call during last month’s visit for Catholics to seek unity, not division. I’m not sure how Donohue’s internecine and potentially partisan sniping achieves that end, or even how attacking other Catholics connects with fighting anti-Catholicism.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: billdonohue; culturewars; davidgibson; donohue
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To: Gamecock; Religion Moderator; Quix; xzins; blue-duncan
Are you P-Marlowe?? <8-)

As many run-ins as I've had with the Religion Moderator over the years, I'd have to be a multiple personalty schizophrenic if I were also the Religion Moderator.

No, You wouldn't!

Yes. I would.

Shut up!

No, you shut up!

We gotta go.

OK.

81 posted on 05/07/2008 11:43:39 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

All of you rang?


83 posted on 05/07/2008 11:53:21 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Just the two of us.


84 posted on 05/07/2008 11:54:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy
A man-child crying out for love, an innocent orphan in the post-modern world.

85 posted on 05/07/2008 12:03:37 PM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: sandyeggo; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
May I present exhibit A.

What does that cryptic comment mean?

86 posted on 05/07/2008 12:09:10 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Religion Moderator

I’d be very interested in the exact number of people who can log in as the Religion Moderator, and a breakout of the religious affiliation of all who can log in as the Religion Moderator (Protestant, Catholic, Jewish etc.).


87 posted on 05/07/2008 12:49:34 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; P-Marlowe
"A man-child crying out for love, an innocent orphan in the post-modern world."

Here I am, sweetie, the answer to your longing cry!


88 posted on 05/07/2008 12:52:05 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Which denomination is she a minister in? *snicker*


89 posted on 05/07/2008 1:04:33 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Four. There are moderators of each confession you have mentioned represented and then some. Of the four, both Protestant and Catholic confessions are represented and then some.


90 posted on 05/07/2008 1:06:41 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
Such answers as "I am not person X" are pointless in this discussion. Since there is more than one person using the account "Religion Moderator," it is a simple thing for X to say "I am not Y" and Y to say "I am not X," leaving the impression that neither X nor Y is a religion moderator when in fact X and Y were the parties replying.

The correct question is: "Does X have (or has X ever had) the capability to post as RM?"

The rest is just a shell game.

91 posted on 05/07/2008 1:09:31 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you. That would only be appropriate. Evidently, wisely, I am not one. *wink*


92 posted on 05/07/2008 1:09:49 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper
You have been a Freeper for more than eight years. Anyone posting to you would be wise to treat you respectfully as if you might be a Moderator.

The Bible says something like that, we can't be sure the other guy isn't an angel - so treat everyone well.

93 posted on 05/07/2008 1:14:46 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Petronski

I have said all I’m going to say about who I am not.


94 posted on 05/07/2008 1:15:43 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Which denomination is she a minister in? *snicker*”

She’s the high priestess of the Church of the Very Last Call.


96 posted on 05/07/2008 1:27:35 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Last call sounds good to me!! Ask long as she’s not standing at the bar!


97 posted on 05/07/2008 1:30:22 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: sandyeggo
Not quite correct, sandyeggo.

Moderators consist of Jim Robinson, Lead Moderator, Admin Moderators, Sidebar Moderators and Religion Moderator (me.) Although all of these have authority on the Religion Forum, I'm the only one that "patrols" here. Any of them may take action on a RF thread or a post - with or without an abuse report.

All of them may post on the Religion Forum, all of them are "oldtimers" and would be quickly recognized as established Freepers.

98 posted on 05/07/2008 1:37:30 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Last call sounds good to me!! Ask long as she’s not standing at the bar!”

I really hate to do this to you but I couldn’t help myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdrASsF611U

Chorus:
The girls all get prettier at closing time
They all begin to look like movie stars
The girls all get prettier at closing time
When the change starts taking place
It puts a glow on every face
Of the falling angels of the back street bars.

If I could rate’em on a scale from 1 to 10
I’m lookin’ for a 9 but 8 would slip right in
A few more drinks and I might slip to a 5 or even a 4
But when tomorrow morning comes,
And I wake up with a number 1
I swear I’ll never do it anymore.

Chorus:
The girls all get prettier at closing time
They all begin to look like movie stars
The girls all get prettier at closing time
When the change starts taking place
It puts a glow on every face
Of the falling angels of the back street bars.

Now, I don’t mean to criticize the girls at all
I know Robert Redford, even overhauls
We all picture in our minds a girl that looks just right
Ain’t it funny, ain’t it strange,
The way a man’s opinion changes
When he starts to face that lonely night.

Chorus:
The girls all get prettier at closing time
They all begin to look like movie stars
The girls all get prettier at closing time
When the change starts taking place
It puts a glow on every face
Of the falling angels of the back street bars.

Of the falling angels of the back street bars...


100 posted on 05/07/2008 1:48:30 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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