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To: Petronski
Christ instituted the Holy Sacraments as gifts to us.

Yep, and adding anything to that as a 'requirement for salvation' tells Him his sacrifice wasn't good enough, sorry. Question. If salvation is based on you keeping the sacraments, or your good deeds, or your observances of anything, why did Christ need to die to begin with???? Why couldn't you have just done it yourself with all of these observances?

Paul asked this same question btw and here is his answer:

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" Galatians 2:21

610 posted on 05/05/2008 11:24:00 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Therefore we set aside the requirements of Mosaic law, and it is good that we did.

612 posted on 05/05/2008 11:25:27 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma; Petronski
Question. If salvation is based on you keeping the sacraments, or your good deeds, or your observances of anything, why did Christ need to die to begin with???? Why couldn't you have just done it yourself with all of these observances?

You are expressing a common fallacy in that you fail to recognize that the intellectual exercise of accepting Christ as your Savior is still a deed.

615 posted on 05/05/2008 11:28:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: conservativegramma
Yep, and adding anything to that as a 'requirement for salvation' tells Him his sacrifice wasn't good enough, sorry. Question. If salvation is based on you keeping the sacraments, or your good deeds, or your observances of anything, why did Christ need to die to begin with???? Why couldn't you have just done it yourself with all of these observances?

You confuse the "how" with the "what." Sacraments are how we are saved by Jesus. They would not exist and would have no salvific power were it not for Jesus' Sacifice.

Can you understand that?

617 posted on 05/05/2008 11:30:06 AM PDT by SoothingDave (Bang bang)
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