[SoothingDave]

Yep, and adding anything to that as a 'requirement for salvation' tells Him his sacrifice wasn't good enough, sorry. Question. If salvation is based on you keeping the sacraments, or your good deeds, or your observances of anything, why did Christ need to die to begin with???? Why couldn't you have just done it yourself with all of these observances?

You confuse the "how" with the "what." Sacraments are how we are saved by Jesus. They would not exist and would have no salvific power were it not for Jesus' Sacifice.

Can you understand that?

[conservativegramma]

Sacraments are how we are saved by Jesus.

With all due respect: BUNK. That is competely unbiblical. If sacraments are the 'how' we didn't need the cross! All God needed to do was institute the sacraments and spared His son a grueling death. Can't you see that???