Posted on 05/01/2008 5:07:35 PM PDT by annalex
Good. We agree.
Just like Paul pointed out to the Corinthians....let's not chow down and leave nothing for your fellow Christan. That is not brotherly love. But celebrate the Lord in breaking of BREAD and WINE to symbolize the Lord provides sustenance for the body and cleansing of sins for the spirit. Would have been a good time in that letter to point out and expand upon the GRAND sacredness of the bread actually becoming Christ's flesh. He doesn't. He merely repeats what Christ said. Paul doesn't expand and explain what would surely be such a huge issue if people were pigging out on Christ's flesh, only reiterates Christ's statement about how Christ satisfies OUR flesh and spirit.
Give us this day our daily bread.....
.....If a sparrow won't fall without God caring and the flowers of the field are arrayed in splendor, won't the Lord care for your needs as well?
Really....
Darwinism — a belief in unguided undesigned evolution producing all life — is not OK. A belief in theistic evolution, that is, a process of divine creation in which evolutionary mechanisms of speciation played a role given them by creator God is OK. A belief in literal 6-day creation is OK also. There is no softening or hardening of any dogmas: within the above-mentioned brackets all it is is pure speculation.
What about God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him spirit and in truth"? What about "By their fruits you shall know them"?
Yes, but also the Church is pillar and ground of all truth; Jesus called her “his” and St. Paul called her His body; when Saul persecuted the Church Jesus said, he was persecuting Him.
So? He is also the Spirit Who inspired the Holy Scripture.
Your good works are dirty rags. Sorry.
Gen 6:5
Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Annalex....the Lord sees even the INTENTIONS of the Thoughts of your mind. And without His influence your intentions are evil continually. Without Christ you can do nothing. The flesh is profitable for NOTHING.
You didn't need Christ. Annalex saved himself! That is not the theology of the original Christian church bro. Nor is it what the Lord forcefully told Job.
I don’t remember anything in Darwin about “unguided” or “undesigned.” He didn’t deal with these issues. Scientists deal with science. Don’t be confused by people like Dawkins, who think evolution proves the nonexistence of God.
You are getting circular. The Church says the Church is the pillar of all truth. Oh. Okay. Just admit it’s circular. Ties people’s brains up in knots.
I never said I saved or will save myself.
Like I said, start your own denomination. I am Catholic, I read what’s written.
Ah, OK. I know, — Darwin himself was, they say, quite religious. I was simply commenting what was the motivation behind proclaiming the Immaculate Conception dogma at the time it was proclaimed. I did not mean it as a complete explanation of what is and what is not wrong with darwinism. Surely SOMETHING is wrong with it.
Deal with the spirit and truth of worship. That was my point, after all.
St. Paul says it, to be precise, in 1 Timothy 3:15. Yes, it is circular: the Church produced the Holy Scripture and she now relies on it to explain herself.
OK. Will do.
In any case, it is not being born again.
Try John's gospel.
I would also add that it is not always easier on the lifestyle. Usually much the opposite, but that is not my main point.
No, there is nothing wrong with Darwinism. It does not preclude God’s intervention.
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John 3 defines born again as being baptized: born of the water and spirit. There is no mentioning of age.
Now, baptism is salvific, like the Eucharist, until such time that it is followed by a mortal sin. Naturally, many people regardless of the age of their baptism commit sins and need absolution in order to be restored to the state of sanctifying grace.
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The concept of being saved by a single proclamation of faith regardless of other works, is what is presumptious. I am just pointing it out.
Start your own denomination.
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