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To: markomalley

Well I’m one weird Protestant here, as I accept the Real Presence of Christ—body blood & soul complete—in holy Communion. Probably my view may be like the Orthodox or Lutheran, as I do not see a necessity to accept notion of Transubstantiation, since, in order to believe that, one must accept Aristotle’s philosophical categories of substance and accidents.

(since Aristotle’s philosophy was not widely known until most of his work was introduced to Europe after the 1st Crusade, arguably no one in the West believed in the substance/accidents division, hence in transubstantiation as it is defined now, until then...)

I like what Queen Elizabeth I allegedly said of holy Communion in the 1500s:

‘Twas God the Word that spake it,
He took the bread and brake it,
And what the Word did make it,
That I believe and take it.

As an evangelical, I simply cannot get around what Jesus said, that yes, it is His body and blood.


311 posted on 04/27/2008 3:04:11 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
Thank you for posting the Queen's quote and for sharing your view. I cannot accept transsubstantiation any more than I can accept mere symbolism.

Right now, today, I am wrestling with the Holy Spirit to give understanding or maybe peace in the acceptance of the plain words of scripture, "this is my body." Still bread & wine, but also truly Christ's body. Difficult.

330 posted on 04/27/2008 3:18:58 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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