Posted on 04/15/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by annalex
Do you ACTUALLY think that a case where a Jew/Gentile was hearing Paul/Peter preach and at the end goes up to the teacher and says "Master, I believe and want to be baptized" that Paul/Peter would say "Sorry, Charlie, but you've got to wait until Peter/Paul shows up before you can be join the Church". The idea is simply laughable.
Of course they did...Paul was commissioned by God to go out amongst the Gentiles and preach and Peter was commissioned by God to go out amongst the Jews and preach...,
And certainly they would preach to whomever may show up...
Do you ACTUALLY think that a case where a Jew/Gentile was hearing Paul/Peter preach and at the end goes up to the teacher and says "Master, I believe and want to be baptized" that Paul/Peter would say "Sorry, Charlie, but you've got to wait until Peter/Paul shows up before you can be join the Church".
The idea is simply laughable
You said a mouthful there...
If I wanted to become a Catholic today, I'd have to wait about 11 months and get baptized (with water) next April and then be able to join your church on Easter...What a crock, eh???
Fortunately, God doesn't operate that way...You'll notice Paul didn't mess around with water baptism...He left that for someone else to do...Paul was involved in Spiritual baptism...The Spiritual operation that takes place when a new believer receives the Spiritual circumcisn...Which, by the way, happens immediately, upon accepting Jesus as your Savior...Whether it happens in your car or truck, at the beach, in a bar or sittin' on your very own throne...
You don't have to go somewhere to find God...He'll meet you right where you are at, before your foot leaves the ground in your anticipation of the first step to find Him...
That's when you become a member of the REAL church...
How do you know that? Please be specific.-
Ping
Peace.
Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
The mystery starts with the ministry of Paul in Romans 1:1 and goes on thru to the end of Revelation...
Could you be *more* specific?
Nope. Like all Protestants, you are unfamiliar with the true process. The length of time one spends in Catechesis is solely governed by the judgment of the Priest or Cathechetical team as to the supplicants spriritual development, and can be as short as zero to MORE than 11 months.
"Fortunately, God doesn't operate that way...You'll notice Paul didn't mess around with water baptism...He left that for someone else to do...Paul was involved in Spiritual baptism...The Spiritual operation that takes place when a new believer receives the Spiritual circumcisn...Which, by the way, happens immediately, upon accepting Jesus as your Savior...Whether it happens in your car or truck, at the beach, in a bar or sittin' on your very own throne..."
Wrong. God DOES "act that way". But you need to look up the term "baptism of desire" and see what that means. And where do you get the idea that "water baptism" wasn't part of Paul's apostolate??
"You don't have to go somewhere to find God...He'll meet you right where you are at, before your foot leaves the ground in your anticipation of the first step to find Him..."
Of course he does. See above point about "baptism of desire".
"That's when you become a member of the REAL church... "
Well, I was baptized as an infant, which joined me to the body of Christ, despite the fact that it was the Episcopal Church that did the baptizing---but I found the FULLNESS of God's Church when I became a Catholic.
But I'm glad you came around to the realization that both Peter and Paul evangelized to all parties, whether Jew or Gentile.
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