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To: big'ol_freeper
Nope....not denying that in the covenant with Jews the Sabbath Day was Saturday.

I also don’t deny (as you do) that Peter and the Apostles where given the authority to loose and bind (Jesus: “Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”). Through Sacred Scripture (and other documents btw) I know that they used that authority to establish Sunday as the day of worship. Any Christian not fallen into the heresy of BIBLIOLITRY recognizes the authority given Peter and the Apostles to loose and bind.

117 posted on April 12, 2008 11:00:36 AM MDT by big'ol_freeper

I do not believe that any man or group of men have the right
to overturn the direct commands of Elohim.

To do so would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit ( see Matthew 12:31 )

Binding and loosing has nothing to do with overturning the Holy Word of Elohim.

This is the Decree from the first Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world.

Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire

He had issued an Edict making Sunday the day of rest

In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine
declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:

"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest,
and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture
may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day
is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment
for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."
Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were
to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath.

They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
136 posted on 04/12/2008 11:03:02 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

The first pontiff of the Catholic Church was Peter. Constantine was never Pope.

Christians were worshiping on Sunday well before Constantine. In fact we know that from the New Testament and from other documents, that are not part of the canon of Sacred Scripture, that the very first generation of Christians worshiped on Sunday.

I am sorry that you desecrate Our Lord Jesus Christ by denying His Divine Nature and authority over His Church. Scripture does not bind God. Jesus’ sacrifice created a New Covenant and authority to loose and bind (are you intellectual enough to even understand what that means?) was given to Peter and the Apostles to establish His Church, which they did, to include Sunday worship. You can protest all you want, but you are wrong and can’t refute that the first Christians DID worship on Sunday...it is irrefutable.


139 posted on 04/12/2008 11:12:29 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: XeniaSt
The Emperor Constantine was not a Pontiff of the Church. Which part of Bizzaroworld did you get that from? Furthermore, you do realise that Constantine was part of God's plan to further His Church? Just like the Kings of Armenia, Georgia and Ethiopia who made Christianity the state religion of their countries? Just like Cyrus the Great of Persia was part of God's plan to free the Judeans from the Assyrians?

And you call Constantine a sun-worshipper when he was the one who fought under the sign of the cross?
315 posted on 04/14/2008 11:49:08 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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