Mary and the Problem of Christian Unity

Coming Home Network ^ | Kenneth J. Howell, Ph. D.

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[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks very much for the info and the link...

I suppose I can only say, that I am never truly surprised at the different interpretations that come from different folks, regarding the Scriptures...

[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks for the second link as well....I guess I will have to check this stuff out, and see what I think, and make my own decisions about this stuff...

[OpusatFR]

Good. Glad to be of help.

Good night.

[andysandmikesmom]

Have a fine evening..good night...

[Quix]

Wellllllllll, now, OLD REGGIE, you should know better.

1. In the first place, the RC edifice Rubber Bible doesn’t put it that way.

2. In the 2nd place, the RC rubber dictionary doesn’t have a word for “sons.” So, they HAD, JUST HAD TO BE . . . maybe cousins. Or perhaps uncles. Or maybe cousins twice removed from uncles thrice removed. Or maybe they were figments of early Protty’s imaginations already trying to sabotage Mary’s early rise as Magnificent Miraculous Earth-Mother-Goddess Mary. That’s it. Clearly a copyist error. Or the early scribe for God didn’t have the proper rubber dictionary so only THOUGHT Christ said sons.

3. Or maybe they were adopted sons—you know troubled ruffians who happened along that Magnificent Mary took to her Earth-Mother lap.

4. I mean, we can’t have Christ rushing off declaring things without them being vetted by the 400 years later RC magicsterical, now can we! What would the world come to! Think of all that political power mongering that would be at risk! So Christ could not possibly have meant SONS! The magicsterical would have never allowed it—even 400 years before their existence . . . their being omnipresent, timeless and all.

/s

[Quix]

It is absolutely shocking that you think the Revelation of St. John Divine is a treatise on space-demon aliens in motherships.

SHOW ME
Where I said
THAT
I believed
or THOUGHT
AT ALL
that
John's
REVELATION
WAS/IS
"a treatise on space-demon aliens in motherships."

SHOW ME!

OR REPENT AND RETRACT--as y'all are so prone to say-->such an outrageous example of bearing false witness.

It's clear to me that the RC perceptual problem distorting and rubberizing Scripture, definitions, history, logic and math thoroughly all out of whack and dependability is alive and well and functioning quite as usual to render words 100% mangled with little even remote connectedness to what I wrote and meant.

Thankfully, it's no great shock beyond the brazen unbelievable audacity of it--we Prottys have learned to expect such outrageousness.

It is shocking that you interpret Ezekiel I as a space vehicle when Ezekiel spends an entire chapter describing truth.

SHOW ME where I said that was my solid, convinced, interpretation--vs an interpretation common in the literature--SHOW ME! SHOW ME.

[Quix]

Well,let’s just say that calling Roman Catholics ‘pagans’ ‘heretics’ and ‘idol worshippers’ among other nice things can be interpreted as an expression of anger. = = = Ahhhhhhhhhh, so personal attacks of mind reading are not sufficient outrages by the RC reps now? They have to add personal attacks of personal EMOTION READING, TOO??? One would think they'd practice a LOT more until they learned how before going public with such! LOL. Thankfully, I rarely get angry about much of anything. And writing on these threads is a lot more fun recreation than even ministry, though ministry is up there and sometimes takes priority. I don't recall the last time I broke out in a sweat writing on FR about anything to anyone. I think the Rubber dictionary is really giving the RC edifice very troubling fits again. It must be very difficult to even stay remotely in touch with the reality most folks are familiar with when even one's rubber dictionary is stretched all the way from Pluto.

[Quix]

Then I guess you’ll need to ask OpusatFR.

This particular batch seems to be fantasies from that RC rep’s vivid imagination.

[andysandmikesmom]

OpusatFR, already provided me with two links, so that I can see where people who believe these types of things are coming from...

[Quix]

Have you even been to

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTOFDAYS.NET

????

I don’t know that they give reading lessons but there is a lot of stuff there on DVD that one can watch and listen to.

I wouldn’t guarantee that RC reps would be able to keep it all straight given the magicsterical’s centuries long mangling of logic circuits and all . . . but one could try repeatedly and maybe after a number of years begin to get it somewhat right . . . for an RC, at least.

[Quix]

Good.

I noticed.

Guy Malone is the real deal. I talked with him at length over 3 days a year ago. He loves Jesus; is Biblical, balanced, kind, generous, balanced and well researched as well experienced.

And his experts on his DVDs are top flight.

[Trailerpark Badass]

No need to anyway, the Greys take care of that.

LOL.

[andysandmikesmom]

And when I get around to it, I will check his website and make my own decisions regarding what he believes to be true...

[Quix]

I wouldn’t want it any other way.

—I’m a Protty!—

It’s the RC’s that demand soma-laced thought-conformity with the political power-mongers in the magicsterical . . . except on the odd moments when they lapse and don’t.

[andysandmikesmom]

And regarding whether one is a Protty or an RC as you call them, I will also make my own decisions about them and their behaviors, based on what I see and read on the FR threads, and my own experiences in real life...

One mans truth that he comes to, by whatever means, may be what another man considers to be a falsehood...

[stfassisi]

“”Mary was not chosen by God because she was blessed, she was blessed because she was chosen by God and Mary was the incubator””

You're putting the cart in front of the horse.

Luke 1;28 says Mary was Blessed

“”And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.””

Lets bring in the anti Catholic Quix and ask if he thinks Mary was not Blessed and tell us scriptures lie?

Quix- do you believe Mary was Blessed?

Quix- Do you think Mary was the incubator and not Blessed

Rob Roy- Do you think our Lord has Blessed you and not Mary?

Rob Roy-Do you think your mother was an incubator so she could produce a know it all son like you that does not square what all of the early Christians who gave up their lives believed?

Why do you think your scripture interpretations are above over 2000 years of all of the Saints?

Are you some kind of prophet who did nothing that we are supposed to follow? I see you as another Jim Jones self loving person who thinks God is guiding him

What have you done to make me believe you? Nothing!

You're posts pretty much prove this!

[Revolting cat!]

Anger is anger, and if you label the Holy Father an "Anti-Christ", you are expressing anger, or contempt or resentment, no two ways about it (you or someone else, nothing personal here.) I don't come with comments to these threads much, first because I don't know anything about theology, and if I did, I am my own priest, aren't I, and no one can question me, can they, Martin Luther, king of the Protties (as you call them)? Second, because I am secure in my faith and don't have to defend it or promote it.

But I can observe and what I am observing is anger and resentments of the Protestants at the Catholics, that oftentimes reveal more about the insecurities of these various sect members than they do about the Catholic faith and traditions. The Catholic Church does not need me to defend it and will outlive all the petty attacks as it has outlived all the Jim Jones' and Jim Bakkers, who, you will say, are not representative, but to me they and the lovely Crouch couple are. That's all.

[Quix]

Scripture calls Mary blessed—of God.

I see no reason to disbelieve Scripture, ever.

I believe Mary was blessed of God . . . as were all Believers who walked by faith with God—OT and NT.

I do not believe all the skyscrapers full of junk that the RC edifice loads onto the sliver of a balsam wood toothpick of a Scriptural foundation . . . the simple sentence that Mary was Blessed.

Reading tons of hogwash into that verse doesn’t destroy the simple accuracy and beauty of that verse.

[Quix]

Sounds like train-loads of hogwash, to me.

BTW, I haven’t called the chief political power broker at the Vatican an Anti-Christ.

All kinds of political and RELIGIOUS positions could end up with The Anti-Christ filling them . . . I don’t know if that one will be one such, or not.

It is interesting that the RC . . . who was it . . . Malachi Martin? saw one more Pope after this one—and that THAT Pope would be evil??? But that was an RC seer. He supposedly did get a long string of things right about a long string of Popes.

But it’s certainly not Scripture saying so . . . so I just watch, collect puzzle pieces and wait and see how God unfolds it all.

The current Pope seems like a pretty decent fellow until he gets off on all the Mary nonsense.