Posted on 04/09/2008 12:36:13 PM PDT by annalex
You people keep repeating this as if Catholic Mariology teaches any different.
>>That’s all I am going to say. If you think the UFO’s are childish, take it up with him. He can explain it.
I find them completely unscriptural.<<
I find them as unscriptural as Chevy’s.
The crop circles are an interesting thing though. They DO exist. They are there for everyone to se. Nobody knows how they got there. Nobody can explain how humans could possibly make them, yet they are clearly intelligently designed.
I offer no explanation, whacky or otherwise. I merely say there is more going on than people admit. They are merely huge undeniable question marks.
Regarding UFO’s. I’ve thought they were baloney for most of my life. After that thing in Arizona and the fallout that resulted, I’m no longer so “sure”. But still, I see it as another “more deniable” question mark. I haven’t a clue what it is and I think scripture is completely silent on it - at least in it’s current manifestation. Time will tell if it can or will go beyond that. It may be just more ephemeral highjinx.
Tobit 6:
7 Afterward they traveled on together till they were near Media. The boy asked the angel this question: Brother Azariah, what medicinal value is there in the fish's heart, liver, and gall?
8 He answered: As regards the fish's heart and liver, if you burn them so that the smoke surrounds a man or a woman who is afflicted by a demon or evil spirit, the affliction will leave him completely, and no demons will ever return to him again.
9 And as for the gall, if you rub it on the eyes of a man who has cataracts, blowing into his eyes right on the cataracts, his sight will be restored.
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16: When you enter the bridal chamber, you shall take live ashes of incense and lay upon them some of the heart and liver of the fish so as to make a smoke.
17: Then the demon will smell it and flee away, and will never again return. And when you approach her, rise up, both of you, and cry out to the merciful God, and he will save you and have mercy on you. Do not be afraid, for she was destined for you from eternity. You will save her, and she will go with you, and I suppose that you will have children by her. When Tobias heard these things, he fell in love with her and yearned deeply for her.
"genos" does not mean "family".
Is “the Game” something you made up and only tell a few people what it is and what it’s rules are? Does it entail your refusal to consider opposing points of view? Does it entail your jumping in on a post between two other people? Please, tell me more about “the Game”.
Catholic: “This is what we believe.”
Catholic-hater: “No, that is not what you believe. You believe this other thing I’ve defined for you. If you protest, you’re just spinning or redefining or splitting hairs.”
Catholic: “But WE are the Catholics here...we know—”
Catholic-hater: “SPIN!”
And around and around goes “The Game.” You have described it perfectly.
Old Reg,I'm still trying to stop laughing from that.
I sincerely love your since of humor sometimes!
It reminds me that if I ever get thrown into the ocean someday that a giant fish might swallow me up and spew me out on a beach like Jonah
I wish you a Blessed evening!
I believe that Christ is God, that He is my Intercessor, that He is my Redeemer, because of the Holy Word of God. The interaction between the two Testaments, the continuance of themes, the intricate entwining of Word and Prophecy cause the two to become monolithic, as each confirms the other. They both point inexorably to Jesus Christ.
Keep in mind that the Scriptures did not come with signatures from the Apostles. We believe them because the Catholic Church says they were authentic.
I am well aware of most ancient texts, and own copies of many, to include the Apocrypha, Early Fathers, Psuedepigrapha (Old & New), Nag Hamadi Codices and other gnostic volumes, most ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Celtic, English, Germanic, and some Slovakian lore and mythology, among many others. I am also quite aware of the provenance of them all. I eat ancient manuscripts for lunch (provided there is an English translation). I have likewise spent much time in the enemies camp, knowing much about witchcraft and daemonology (in the western sense), satanism, The Caballa, the Koran and associated Hadiths, and etcetera.
You're,trusting the Catholic Church a lot more than you might think without even realizing it.
You underestimate my position.
I do find the Catholic church to be compromised, I admit, but that is less of an accusation than you might suppose, as I find most organized religions to be likewise compromised, albeit each in a different fashion, as one might suppose. I take no religion or it's traditions for granted, including any Protestant church.
In all that I have explored, I was looking for accuracy in prophecy, having the silly idea that a god who is actually GOD would not be errant in the delivery thereof, as the proof of deity is embodied solely therein.
Having looked far afield, with a jaundiced eye toward all, I have found ONE prophecy which holds together, and which knows the beginning from the end of things.
Having found that out, I am quite comfortable that the Word of Almighty Jehovah is TRUE and is a just standard to judge all things by- For one must judge, and in order to do so, one must make a measurement. In order to make a measurement one must have a standard of weights and measures. That standard must be the Bible, having found by it's Prophecy that it is surely of God, and therefore it's Word can be equally trusted.
It is into that crucible that I put your traditions, along with every other, and only that which emerges can be considered worthy of any further indulgence.
And it is *not* true that I would throw away the whole of your traditions (like I do for the Mohammedans, as an instance).
As a rule, I (and most Protestants) honor your writers, and honor Mary too. But to ask us to simply take your traditions as-is, and whole hog, simply can't be done. If it is not reconcilable to the measuring standard, it will be rejected.
Oh, that’s what you mean by “the Game”. You are wrong if you think I’m a “Catholic-hater”. But imagining that you know that fits in with the typical RC position of knowing what one cannot know and claiming to know it.
I hate false doctrine, not people deceived by it - whether the deception comes from the RCC or the SBC.
Manfred, Man, show me a hater who admits to being a hater, Do Wah Diddy Dum Diddy Do!
I admit I hate false doctrine. There. Got a tune for that? Oh - trying hard to hate the sin my own life. Need a catchy tune for that one.
Thanks, but country music is another thing I dislike very much.
By their fruits.
So stop spouting it.
You’re so cute, speaking in short bites that aren’t tied to anything. Show my from Scripture where I’m wrong and I will repent. Flatly declaring that I “spout false doctrine” is merely amusing.
Do you know the fruits of all the RCs around the world? Do you join your brethren in declaring absolutely that NO Catholics worship Mary or the pope? Do you have that kind of comprehensive knowledge of countless people around the world?
You expose false doctrine. Have a nice day.
By the way, Manfred, you should know that I am heterosexual and happily married.
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