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To: xone

Ok. I may have been abrupt also. We all make mistakes. Now, that we’ve had a little wake up call and wide awake, let’s continue. Please, I ask , please answer my questions. I think I’ve responded to all your posts. You need to respond to 152 and 163.

Oh, I don’t say Nicene Creed.

Blessings in your search for TRUTH


173 posted on 03/21/2008 6:45:28 AM PDT by Harrymehome
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To: Harrymehome
Jam 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Judged and if found guilty of not obeying the law of the Big 10, you pay the price.

Again, I know we will be judged by the 10 Commandments. the Law. For the sake of argument, I'll concede your point regarding the ordinance section of Romans/Gal being about the land covenant.

With these concessions, how then does one receive salvation via the Law? James is specific. As no one save Christ has kept the 10 Commandment/Law, there must be a repentance and forgiveness factor somewhere. In whom is it to be found? If it is in Jesus (which is what I believe) then the Redeemer of the Law is the Author of it. John 8:58. If one accepts that passage, the logical extension is obvious.

Further, IAW, John 5:21-22 Jesus will be our judge. What does He say about salvation? That is what is important to me. Since I have violated the Law, confessed and received forgiveness, but will violate it again for sure, the only hope in the Law is that I hope I won't die prior to the confession of that next particular sin. That isn't the way God intended for us to live.

I contend we live by Grace, freely given, by Grace Christ has authored our Faith (Heb 12:2), through the work of the Holy Spirit, we can do good works (fruits of the Spirit) which reflect the hope within us. All of this is freely given by God to those who believe. It doesn’t give us sway to violate the Law at will, if anything we feel compelled to follow the Lord’s instruction because of the saving work of the Holy Spirit. It is by their fruits that ye shall know them, but not the fruits of my will, God’s will. The free will argument notwithstanding, to me it is obvious that God is responsible for all of it.

I will be out the rest of the day.

175 posted on 03/21/2008 2:55:14 PM PDT by xone
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