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New Atheists Are Not Great
Christianity Today ^ | 3/13/2008 | Tony Snow

Posted on 03/14/2008 9:54:07 AM PDT by dinasour

In What's So Great About Christianity, Dinesh D'Souza is skeptical of skepticism and enthusiastic about the faith.

There are two types of Christian apologetics. One makes the positive case for faith; the other responds to critics. Dinesh D'Souza's delightful book, What's So Great About Christianity, falls into the second category. It sets out to rebut recent exuberant atheist tracts, such as Christopher Hitchens's God Is Not Great and Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion.

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This leads us to perhaps the strongest argument against atheism, which D’Souza makes only indirectly—the argument from experience. Atheism cannot reach our hearts. A rigorous atheist cannot console in a time of grief, cannot explain love, cannot sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises. He can only utter, “What is, is.”

Read the whole thing.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers
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In know I didn't have to excerpt this, but it's kind of long anyway.

Tony wouldn't mind the clicks. I hear that when you click on Tony, he giggles like Elmo.

HT: My favorite atheist, Allahpundit at Hot Air.

1 posted on 03/14/2008 9:54:07 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: baa39; cleveland gop; mom4kittys; rightwingintelligentsia; moscowmillsmuttlover; GregB; mupcat; ...
Tonys Mug


     Tony Snow Ping

 

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Tony couldn't bring us any snow today, so instead he delivers a little sunshine.
2 posted on 03/14/2008 9:56:28 AM PDT by dinasour
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I’m not an atheist, but how does the author know an atheist cannot console in a time of grief, explain love, or sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises?


3 posted on 03/14/2008 9:56:39 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Tony Snow

Hi, Tony - hope you’re doing well.


4 posted on 03/14/2008 10:04:47 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: dinasour; Tony Snow
I hear that when you click on Tony, he giggles like Elmo.

heheheheheheh

Thanks for the ping!

5 posted on 03/14/2008 10:04:56 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (High Maintenance Estrogen Bot........... look out :0))
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To: stuartcr
but how does the author know an atheist cannot console in a time of grief, explain love, or sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises

I wouldn't know, really.

A matter of opinion, a matter of faith.

A little of both.

6 posted on 03/14/2008 10:23:12 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 03/14/2008 10:24:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tiredoflaundry
heheheheheheh

On the other hand, I've heard that Allahpundit clicks when you tickle him.

8 posted on 03/14/2008 10:24:55 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour

“Barack Hussein Obama is a member of a radical, anti-American, anti-Semite religious organization. Who damns America often and blames us for 911 says we deserved it”

A gift of $22,500 to this radical, anti-American religious organization in 2006 says to me he is much more than involved he is committed to it’s values. It is Obama.

Have I missed something?
Can Obama be loyal to this country?

His close family relationships with hater, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. He’s also associated, as you know, with Tony Rezko, and William Aires, the domestic terrorist. By the way, all this is the side of his life that he doesn’t want discussed. The list of bad associates goes on and on. Can’t explain them all away Mr. Obama but I forget you don’t want it discussed!

I fear for us now. How about you?


9 posted on 03/14/2008 10:31:41 AM PDT by BellStar (In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you Obama!)
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To: stuartcr

Just curious - what consolation could an atheist offer when a loved one has died?


10 posted on 03/14/2008 10:41:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dinasour

lolol! Well your pings tickle too!


11 posted on 03/14/2008 10:51:47 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (High Maintenance Estrogen Bot........... look out :0))
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To: MEGoody

> Just curious - what consolation could an atheist offer when a loved one has died?

The worms will surely find you delicious.


12 posted on 03/14/2008 11:06:16 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: BellStar

> I fear for us now. How about you?

I have been hearing *about* this for a awhile. Only this morning did I actually listen to what this guy actually says.

Whoa.


13 posted on 03/14/2008 11:08:07 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: MEGoody

Not to be contrarian, but I would note that Buddhism is atheistic. The Buddha correctly discerned that the existence or non-existence of such beings as the Hindus call ‘gods’ is of no consequence for our moral and spiritual life, but, without the light of divine revelation, did not discern the existence of the one transcendent God. Buddhism contains many consolations for the grieving, without being theistic.

Now most Western atheists are also antagonistic to mind-body dualism and the existence of a soul which continues to exist after death. It is this error that renders them incapable of consoling the grieving, not their folly in saying there is no God.


14 posted on 03/14/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: stuartcr

>>I’m not an atheist, but how does the author know an atheist cannot console in a time of grief, explain love, or sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises?<<

It is simple. It is their core “what is life” paradigm that eliminates the possibility of being uplifting during such times.

Utterly and completely impossible - unless they are not being true to their own beliefs.

But then, I’ve never met a real athiest. I’ve met plenty that claim to be, but when questioned further, every single one of them backpedaled and admitted they were really more “agnostic”.

Wanna see how a REAL atheist would act? Rent Natural Born Killers.


15 posted on 03/14/2008 11:13:44 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Buddhism contains many consolations for the grieving, without being theistic.

Such as?

16 posted on 03/14/2008 11:19:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dinasour
The worms will surely find you delicious.

Yeah, such a consolation. ;)

17 posted on 03/14/2008 11:20:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Not being an atheist, I don’t know. Maybe something like their thoughts are with them and sincere hopes that the person will find peace within themselves after their loss? I’m sure some atheists here could elaborate if they see fit.


18 posted on 03/14/2008 11:30:47 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
Maybe something like their thoughts are with them and sincere hopes that the person will find peace within themselves after their loss?

I can certainly see them saying something like that, but that isn't consolation or comfort. . .it's just platitudes.

19 posted on 03/14/2008 11:38:20 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dinasour

A rigorous atheist cannot console in a time of grief, cannot explain love, cannot sigh in happy wonder at life’s endless surprises. He can only utter, “What is, is.”
__________

Tony, Tony ... leave the aphorisms for those who are better at them.

Why would anyone suggest that one who does not believe in a transcendant God would have no human emotions, and the ability to understand the emotions others feel. It’s just silly.


20 posted on 03/14/2008 12:54:16 PM PDT by dmz
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