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To: Reno232; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...
Re. Here’s another interesting response to the question at hand for your perusal ... [FAIR's] Search_for_the_Truth_DVD:Book_of_Abraham


Thank you for posting that link!

The article was quite amusing – beginning with its opening lines:

The [Mormon] Church always forthright

The Church has always been frank and open about what is on the papyri in its possession.

Actually, as explained in great detail with annotations to dozens of examples HERE and HERE, the Mormon Church has engaged in a massive program of cover-up's and deception concerning Joseph's false translation of the papyrus scroll since it was exposed in a NY Times article in 1912. Among other things, the Church foisted off false experts who claimed Joseph's translation was accurate, and suppressed papyrus from Joseph Smith's collection.

Continuing:

Oversimplifying the translation issues

The issues surrounding the translation of the Egyptian papyri that resulted in the Book of Abraham are much more complex than critics would like us to believe. Foremost, it is significant to realize that we don't have all the papyri that were originally owned by Joseph.

This award winning video, The Lost Book of Abraham does a wonderful example of answering those questions and much more. The video cites a number of prominent scholars who laugh at Smith's purported translation, insist there is no doubt concerning the content and interpretation of the document, and assert the text is complete. Dr. Robert K. Ritner, Professor of Egyptology at the University of Chicago, is cited most frequently in the film. I invite you to review Ritner's vitae HERE.

Perhaps best of all:

We know that ancient Israelites sometimes used Egyptian symbols to convey religious teachings.

Yeah.

The same Jews only wrote in the Hebrew language and meticulously copied it and preserved it over centuries of persecution? The same Jews who found idolatrous Egyptian text an abomination?

Or, do you think it was more likely these Jews described in Joseph's famous PROPHECY:

The inspiration of God caused men to hunt for a new continent until Columbus discovered it. Men have lost millions of dollars and hundreds of lives to find a country beyond the north pole; and they will yet find that country - a warm, fruitful country, inhabited by the ten tribes of Israel, a country divided by a river, on one side of which lives the half tribe of Manasseh, which is more numerous than all the others. So said the Prophet.” (quoted in The Inhabitants of the Moon, O. B. Huntington The Young Woman's Journal, vol. 3, pages 263, 264.).

Bottom Line:

Many have found FAIR to be a less than credible source for some of the reasons shown above. You would therefore probably be better served in future posts by not citing them as an authority.

1,820 posted on 03/01/2008 5:35:28 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Zakeet
I would guess the anti-Mormon sites are for more credible. LOL. Funny how some mock the Fair site but somehow are never able to refute the info contained therein. They continue to cite anti-Mormon sites & literature as irrefutable & beyond reproach which is laughable especially when given valid arguments to the contrary.

Did you even read the link refuting Baer’s claim? Many of those links contain opinions from experts that are not LDS. But of course, this isn’t a quest for truth is it? It’s about winning your case.

1,823 posted on 03/01/2008 9:13:49 PM PST by Reno232
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