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To: Godzilla

I understand where you are trying to go and I choose not to comment further. If you don’t like it, well, that’s just too bad, isn’t it?


1,550 posted on 02/29/2008 7:44:57 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
I understand where you are trying to go and I choose not to comment further. If you don’t like it, well, that’s just too bad, isn’t it?

OK, so what HAVE you said?

You have said to me in #1542
Plural marriage to teenage girls is illegal. I do not condone violations of the law.

You have said to pby in #1546
Child abuse is illegal and I stand against crime.
Plural marriage is illegal and I stand against crime.

So it is clear that you condemn the founder of your church, Joe Smith, but you just can't face the fact that he violated the law, he violated D&C, he violated the BOM. No, its not too bad for me, but it is too bad for you. You are selling your soul to a snake oil salesman. Take a close look.

Timothy 2:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1 Tim. 3: 12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Jacob 1:15
And now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.
Jacob 2: 27
Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
Jacob 3: 5
Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins, are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none, and there should not be whoredoms committed among them.
D&C 42: 22
Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else.
D&C 49: 16
Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation;

What about coveting another man's wife?

Ex. 20: 17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
Deut. 5: 21
Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour’s wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour’s house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
Mosiah 13: 24
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his man-servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.
D&C 19:24-25
I am Jesus Christ; I came by the will of the Father, and I do his will. And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife;

The fun doesn't stop here either

Lied to his own wife, first wife Emma

When he was finally caught by Emma, he quickly whipped up some scriptures(D&C 132) that threatened her with DEATH if she did not accept it

Excommunicated friends who did not agree with it(like Oliver Cowdery)

Published scriptures that stated he did not practice it(1835 ed of D&C 101:4)

Published a list of things he(and his followers) claimed to believe and one in particular said he obeyed the laws of the land, even though polygamy had been against the law in Illinois since 1833

Burned down a printing press because it was exposing the truth about his DECEPTIVE life, that he was indeed marrying additional women AND some were still married to their first husband!

You tell us to repent of our sins, while you condone the illegal and sinful practices of your prophet.

1,558 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:42 PM PST by Godzilla (My ancestors were humans. Sorry to hear about yours.)
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To: Old Mountain man
 
I understand where you are trying to go and I choose not to comment further.
 
 
I understand just WHY you are reluctant to 'go there'.

 

 
Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Apostle

1,632 posted on 03/01/2008 5:06:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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