Hmmm.... I seem to have nicked a nerve, PM. I got not one, not two, but three separate responses out of you. I must have struck home.
To 1126:
~”Aren’t you glad now that you’re not a Christian?”~
I am a Christian, loud and proud. And you know it.
The mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak give the rest of us Christians a bad name. If that were the yardstick for who is Christian, then I -would- be ashamed to be a Christian. It’s unfortunate that Ghandi so insightfully saw through the veneer of holiness that such people have wrapped around themselves. But, it’s a thin veneer, so perhaps his perceptiveness in not surprising.
To 1135:
I’m not sure whether I’m responding here to you or to this “Ray Comfort” fellow. Since you saw fit to post it as a quote, in lieu of enlightening us with original thought of your own, I’m going to assume that you agree with it, and will therefore respond to you as if they were your words.
~”The cynic no doubt did this to illustrate that all Christians are nothing but hypocrites”~
How can one interpret my comments as meaning that “all” Christians are hypocrites? I specifically define my comments as directed toward “the so-called Christians to whom Ghandi seems to have been referring.” Meaning the mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak.
Besides that, you know that I believe myself to be a Christian. What sense would it make for me to call all Christians hypocrites? Your logic just doesn’t fit.
You do seem to have gotten quite defensive at that observation. Why would that be? I didn’t accuse you of being in that group.
~”First, no one is like Jesus Christ. He was sinless. “~
That’s true. He also taught us to follow Him. That means striving to emulate His example, despite our inevitable failures at doing so. In my book, this includes avoiding behavior such as lying, mocking, ridiculing, unrighteously judging, and otherwise being uncharitable - you know, like the mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak
~”Jesus warned that if we die in our sins, we will end up in Hell. What a tragedy that Ghandi didnt find any help in his own hopeless religion.”~
Yes, poor Ghandi. A great man, good and righteous as any other mortal, damned to Hell because... well, because the cruel, unloving God worshiped by the mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak says so.
To 1139:
~”You mean the way you are ranting now?”~
Ranting? A simple observation is not a rant. Consider the possibility of psychological projection, PM. Why should I rant when I am right? The mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak do not act in such a way as to glorify their Lord and Savior. They instead choose to use their religion as a fig leaf for their rage and hate. I believe that is a significant problem in many places in the world. Wouldn’t you agree?
Actually I was bored and eating my breakfast and the board was pretty dead. It seems all your compadres had abandoned the thread.
I am a Christian, loud and proud. And you know it.
I know you are not. Not by any traditional or orthodox definition of the term. You believe in a Jesus who was once the spirit brother of Lucifer. The Jesus of Christianity is the CREATOR of Lucifer (and everything else).
Yes, poor Ghandi. A great man, good and righteous as any other mortal, damned to Hell because... well, because the cruel, unloving God worshiped by the mean-spirited, disgraceful, self-proclaimed Christians of whom we speak says so.
He rejected Christ. He claimed that Christ was simply a "Good teacher" and not God Incarate. He denied that Christ died for his sins. He denied that Jesus is the only way, the only truth and the only life. He rejected the teachings of Jesus and rejected his mission. The Bible says that such people will die in their sins. Jesus said that such people would suffer hell and eternal damnation where the worm dieth not and there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Gentle Jesus, meek and mild...
If you believe that Ghandi, by his good works, was made righteous before God, then you deny the Gospel of Christ.
Narrow is the way, and the narrow way does not include adherence to the polytheistic-Christ-denying Hinduism of Ghandi.
You've given me a smile this morning!
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is wellI am well enough off. I then said to my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.