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To: DelphiUser
So the one " "voted in" 325 years later in Nicea" is the Christ of the mainstream Christian Denominations that your Prophet doesn't believe in?

Jesus was never "voted in", he is the same yesterday, tomorrow and forever.

You do realize he said what I quoted a few years ago, so you still believe this:

And the angel of God said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people. – Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10-11

So you agree with the Book of Mormon that there were absolutely no Christians on earth when Joseph Smith got his "revelation?"

You don't understand that the Church of God, the Bible and Jesus Christ is composed of everyone that has made the Biblical commitment to Jesus, his teachings and follows them?

They have been around since the beginning, some not associated with the "great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

Again, do you believe the above quote from the BOM and write off all Christians except those of the Mormon church?

261 posted on 02/20/2008 12:07:45 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Syncro

Its hard to follow you. What are you trying to say?


263 posted on 02/20/2008 12:10:23 PM PST by lmiller007
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To: Syncro
I Said: So the one " "voted in" 325 years later in Nicea" is the Christ of the mainstream Christian Denominations that your Prophet doesn't believe in?

U Said: Jesus was never "voted in", he is the same yesterday, tomorrow and forever.

Jesus never changed, but the Trinity which can be shown to be a change to what was believed since apostolic times was a change to the Definition of who Jesus is. All this stupid bickering back and forth (both sides and me sometimes) is all about the Trinity, all the crap about Joseph smith that gets churned up here is because he dared to say the Trinity was wrong and that is what this all boils down to. If he had started a church, that practiced polygamy as many did in that day and age it would not be a big deal today. If he had just started another Protestant Church we would be lost in the Mix, but he didn't do that, did he.

U Said: You do realize he said what I quoted a few years ago, so you still believe this:
And the angel of God said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people. – Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10-11
So you agree with the Book of Mormon that there were absolutely no Christians on earth when Joseph Smith got his "revelation?"


There were most certainly Christians on the earth. His church (authority) was not here. His teachings had been perverted (like the Trinity heresy), but there were Good people doing their best to find God anyway, what do you think the Protestant movement was all about?

U Said: You don't understand that the Church of God, the Bible and Jesus Christ is composed of everyone that has made the Biblical commitment to Jesus, his teachings and follows them?

I believe I understand, I believe that you believe you understand. None of that really matters, what matters is which one of us does God believe understands? I have prayed and received an answer that meets the Biblical requirement, I'm going with God's advice on this one.

U Said: Again, do you believe the above quote from the BOM and write off all Christians except those of the Mormon church?

It really does not matter who I "Write off" or "Write Up" or Write Down" I am but a man. Jesus will judge, and I will condemn no man. It is sad that the perverted doctrines that are taught actually interfere with the receiving of revelation so that many on your side actually teach that a prayer to God will be answered by Satan. Such teachings only serve to separate men from God which is the exact opposite of what God's Church is supposed to be doing, thus it has become perverted and is a tool of the Devil.

You can argue all you want, but I have had people tell me my prayers to God were answered by Satan on this forum, and so this is my opinion of what they have been taught and are teaching others.
488 posted on 02/20/2008 3:29:04 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Syncro

Syncro, you are asking a series of interesting questions here and since you seem curious, I will endeavor to answer them, using the technique of piling on that seems so popular among the mainstreamers here.

The gospels were “voted in” by the council of Nicea under the auspices of Constantine. Look it up. Nothing was voted in that he did not agree with and essentially nothing remained in the church of early doctrine that he did not approve of. The triune heresy is a greco roman fiction, not scriptural.

The Priesthood authority had been removed from the Earth when the church lapsed into apostasy.

Regarding your small pittance of a quote, you must read the entire chapter in context to understand it. I would urge you to read the entire thing, not play the Bible Lite game that so many maintreamers are so fond of. However, as a final answer to your question, why do you persecute members of our Church? Think about that. When next you enter your church, think about its history and roots and the evils that historically must be attributed to it and its antecedents. No, the true Church of Christ was restored by my Master, the Lord Jesus Christ through God’s own Prophet, Joseph Smith. Whether you accept that or not matters not one bit to me, for I am confident of the truth of the matter.


514 posted on 02/20/2008 4:47:45 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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