[tantiboh]

~”But they are not “misconstruing.” Smith and Young said that.”~

No, they didn’t. You’re confusing the two concepts of “requirement for salvation” and “source of salvation.”

This has been explained multiple times on this thread.

~”You just have to be honest and put that in the category of an indefensible mistake...”~

I would be, if that’s what it were. They did not say that. That is what they’re being portrayed as saying, but that portrayal is not accurate.

Words mean things. You can’t substitute one word with another and expect me to automatically accept that the person being quoted said what you are claiming.

[farmer18th]

Words do, of course, mean things. Very simply then, was Brigham Young getting it right, or getting it wrong, when he said:

No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. – Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91

[Elsie]

This has been explained multiple times on this thread.

--Joseph Goebbels