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***It is a common myth that anti-Mormon attacks have completely overwhelmed the intellectual position of Latter-day Saints, leaving us with nothing but blind faith in “warm feelings” we get about the Church.***

“Anti-Mormons” are not the ones that started this fight way back in the 1820’s when some dude from the backwoods of New York claimed to have found golden plates and then started attacking all other churches.

If you read carefully it was not some dude from upstate NY who made those comments, it was the Lord himself who was once again preparing to restoring his Church on earth and needed to get a few things straight before proceeding.

Isa. 29: 13.
13 ¶ Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

I know the world consensus is up set with this but who are in Charge here some Men in 325 AD our Jesus Christ himself!

Now I know many for what ever reason feel differently but there are about 13 millions of us who did receive a witness from the Lord!

***Now I know many for what ever reason feel differently but there are about 13 millions of us who did receive a witness from the Lord!***

And did the Montanists, the Marcionites, Paulicians, Donatists, Caprocrations and Cathari also receive the “witness of the Lord” as they all claimed?

And that is just the “short” list.

>I know the world consensus is up set with this but who are in Charge here some Men in 325 AD our Jesus Christ himself!

Please elaborate! Did a small group of men conspire to make Jesus into God, instead of merely a god? Reading too much Dan Brown lately?

>Now I know many for what ever reason feel differently but there are about 13 millions of us who did receive a witness from the Lord!

And all the Muslims, Hindu, Buddhists, Daoists, Shinto, etc. all stand up and say the same thing. There are certainly more of each of these religions who claim to have a divine revelation. So how are we to judge your witness?

Now I know many for what ever reason feel differently but there are about 13 millions of us who did receive a witness from the Lord!

I see that you have quoted from Isaiah in the BIBLE:

For ANYTHING to trump the existing bible we have, it HAS to pass THIS test:

Galatians 1:7-10
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.

If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.

“Now I know many for what ever reason feel differently but there are about 13 millions of us who did receive a witness from the Lord!”

I love that claim for so many reasons!

1. “13 millions” - this is a claim that is unsubstantiated
in any way. This -> MAY <- be the number on the membership
rolls, but is:

a. unverifiable by any independent & objective source
b. unverifiable that each had “a witness”
c. since mormonism contradicts scripture, the “witness”
was not “from the Lord”. Perhaps his brother...

2. “If you read carefully it was not some dude from upstate NY who made those comments, it was the Lord himself who was once again preparing to restoring his Church on earth and needed to get a few things straight before proceeding.”

I love this claim for so many reasons!

a. It is unverifiable by any outside, objective source
b. It violates scripture in so many ways
c. It demeans God

Thanks Resty! A wonderful spoof to brighten this thread.