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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD
Well, you read it as Mary saying: "I will grant you my grace such that I will allow you to save humanity." I read it as Mary saying: "Yes sir." If I agreed with the Apostolic theology on this I would not venerate Mary at all, I would worship her openly for she would be worth it

Your theology suggests that she had no will of her own. Even if she did say "Yes Sir," as you read it, it was still her decision. Otherwise what happened to her was rape. It seems, I am afraid, the Reformed theology would find that agreeable.

5,193 posted on 04/28/2008 1:50:21 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD
Your theology suggests that [Mary] had no will of her own. Even if she did say "Yes Sir," as you read it, it was still her decision. Otherwise what happened to her was rape. It seems, I am afraid, the Reformed theology would find that agreeable.

Well, then I suppose you would also consider the Immaculate Conception to be rape, perhaps double rape. (Was Anna ever asked? :) I suggest that Latins and Reformers would agree on the following words: "God pre-prepared Mary, without asking her, uniquely and apart from any other person, for her role in God's grand plan for the salvation of man." It sounds like the Orthodox would call this a supreme personal violation by God against a sovereign person.

5,266 posted on 05/01/2008 5:15:50 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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