Where do you find this in the scriptures? There is nothing that says they were “ordained” or that they were anything but laity exercising the gifts given to everyone in the church.
“Fine, if +Mark is not included, +Matthew was the real witnessed. He heard the Commission. +Luke had to “research” it and all he could come up with is eleven plus women (I suppose the women who discovered the empty tomb, and even that is controversial as to how many were there).”
But Luke says he got his information from “eyewitnesses” to the events he was reporting. A simple solution to the problem could be there were to “Great Commissions”; one taking place indoors and the other outdoors with the makeup of the audience including the same people along with others in the different audiences.
“In fact, Matthew's Genealogy of Joseph and Luke's differ on very crucial points: Jospeh’s own father's name and the number of generations and names involved.”
Matthew’s genealogy is of Joseph and Luke’s is of Mary; both being from the tribe of Judah.
“+Luke's account of +Paul's “event” on the way to Damascus doesn't agree with +Paul's own, or +Paul's account abut the division that boiled up in Jerusalem with the party of +James.”
Where is there a disagreement?
“My point exactly. +Paul is adamant about women being silent in the church.”
There is no evidence that Priscilla was teaching in the church. It says she and Aquilla “took him unto them and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly”. They took him aside and taught him privately. There is no disagreement with Paul or the early church.
1 Cor 12:18 reads (my emphasis) "And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers..."
The "appointment" is carried out by the laying of the hands, which was done in the Church, as was the case with +Paul and +Barnabas. This appointment is ordination to a specific function (deacon, priest, bishop...), the reception of Holy Orders.
Furthermore, the gifts are not given to everyone. It is written: "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." (Mar 16:17-18, the part you acknowledge as having been "added" but dare not call it a forgery)
Forest Keeper himself argued not so long ago that in this case "those who have believed" did not apply to "all" but somehow only to some, otherwise believers could be distinguished by those who to have them (as the actual text suggests), which is not the case!
You, on the other hand, are arguing that these gifts were given to "everyone."
And Ephesians 4:11-12 reads "And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ."
"Some," BD, doesn't equal "everyone."
Clearly, not all were elders in the Church. There were those who were appointed (ordained), Clearly and also those, the majoirty (the "sheep") who were not given much, who had no role in the Church.
This is actually a 15th century innovation by Annius of Viterbo.
Luke 2:23,38: When He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, the son of Joseph, the son of Eli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph...the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Matthews' genealogy (Mat 1:1-3,16)says (in the opposite order): The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham: Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of [a]Judah and his brothers...Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus was born.
I don't see the genealogy of Mary here. No one in the Middle East in those days counted genealogies accoridng to female lines. Inheritance (birthright) was strictly along male lines. Women were "fertile ground" and men were carriers of family "seed." All genealogy belong to male "seed" in ancient Israel. Thus, S. Jerome, who was very familiar with Jewish customs and language says "It is not the custom of the scriptures to count women in their genealogies."
The two accounts give different starting points and different fathers of +Joseph, namely Eli and Jacob. Luke's account traces the lineage all the way back to Adam, the Son of God (my emphasis). Matthew's genealogy begins with Abraham.
The numbers and names of generations don't match either. The divergence, aside form Joseph's father begins in ancestor number 5 (Elezear/Levi according to Matthew/Luke respectively).
Where is there a disagreement?
Minor details such as who heard/saw what. Also Acts says +Paul wen to Jerusalem twice and +Paul says it was once. Acts never repeat what +Paul claims in Gal 4:14, as having been received "as an Angel of God, as [wV] Christ Jesus." Talk about "alter Christus" and the Chirst-complex!
There are many other differences also, too numerous to list.