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To: irishtenor; kosta50

“The Bible lies, according to Kosta50!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Kosta50, someone PRETENDING to be Peter wrote Peter’s epistle. The Church was FOOLED by the author of Peter, so therefore the CHURCH has no Spiritual discernment!!!”

As I asked before, why does this make any difference to you? If these two epistles, part of the canon of the NT were not written by +Peter, will you run off and become a Mohammedan or start worshiping stumps or whatever it is we Orthodox are accused of?

As for the Bible “lying”, well that seems a bit harsh but as both Kosta and I have said, its pretty well established that +Peter didn’t write those letters so I suppose you could say that the Bible is “lying”. The Bible also says that bats are birds. Is that lying? The NT canon we use doesn’t include Barnabus and the Shepherd. Is the Bible lying now or was it lying before the late 4th century? When the East included Hebrews but the West didn’t, was the West lying about the canon?

Bibliolatry, IT, like all heresies, brings with it a whole host of problems for Christians.


4,097 posted on 03/16/2008 6:49:01 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; irishtenor
Bibliolatry, IT, like all heresies, brings with it a whole host of problems for Christians

That's exactly the point, Kolo. The Bible doesn't lie, of course. The autorship of 1 and 2 Peter does not in an of itself make those books "inspired." Their content and the message do.

As I said, Isaiah was written by three different individuals and in three different time periods. That does not make the Book of Isaiah a "lie."

But when the Bible becomes "God," anything other than pristine becomes a "lie" and a threat to this cult. Just as Galilleo's telescopic demonstration of crater-pocketted lunar surface was judged an "illusion created by the devil" by the Vatican observers because the celestial bodies that were in "heaven" could only be perfect because nothing that is imperfect can be in heaven!

Never mind the that the Bible says the "heaven" is just above the clouds...up there...Is that a "lie" too? Or is this a simple belief held at that time just as bats were believed to be birds? One more example that not all that is in the Bible is the "word of God." God would not write lies.

And the celestial spheres were therefore by "necessity" deemed perfect spheres and any deviations were "illusions" created by the Evil One in order to "deceive" us into believing the science.

Some have not progressed much since those days.

4,099 posted on 03/16/2008 7:27:23 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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