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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Agrarian
***You’re going to have to look elsewhere for evidence undermining the continuing and ancient character of our Divine Liturgies, tc.***

I was not making an argument against the "continuing and ancient character of [your] divine liturgies". My point was to show kosta his empirical epistemology is untenable and that he applies it differently for the word of God and the Greek church.

But since you brought it up K, it is disappointing that the Greek church never matured as the author of Hebrews called the Church to do. Why is it that the Greek church is still playing with the old covenant when a better covenant has been installed? Why is it that the Greek church is still playing with copies and shadows when what those represented to the Jews has been fulfilled in Christ?

Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity....For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also....For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated form sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for his own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

2,330 posted on 02/19/2008 6:10:50 PM PST by the_conscience ('The human mind is a perpetual forge of idols'.)
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To: the_conscience; kosta50; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; wmfights; Quix; Agrarian

“But since you brought it up K, it is disappointing that the Greek church never matured as the author of Hebrews called the Church to do. Why is it that the Greek church is still playing with the old covenant when a better covenant has been installed? Why is it that the Greek church is still playing with copies and shadows when what those represented to the Jews has been fulfilled in Christ?”

:) That’s OK tc; we don’t worry too much about those sorts of ideas. If you were here, I’d offer you cup of kafe and perhaps a nice piece of baklava.


2,331 posted on 02/19/2008 6:26:11 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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