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To: blue-duncan; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
Did God plan for this fellow to be blind or was he just a victim of circumstance and Jesus, just opportunistic?

Like I said to Forest Keeper, next time you see a homeless man, don't give him money—congratulate him! And tell him: "Man, aren't you lucky!" If only I were so "blessed."

Jhn 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him

I think Christ was referirng to the His ability to give him sight, not that he was lbind all his life just so Christ can come by and show His power. God din't make him blind just for that! Blindness like all desease is not from God but from our fallen nature.

And what about the rets of the verse?

4 "We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work.

Huh? One cannot work at night? Not even God?

1,911 posted on 02/11/2008 8:16:40 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper

“If only I were so “blessed.”

Circumstances do not determine “blessedness”.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land. Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

That being said what about this? Did God purpose to send Israel and Joseph into slavery?

Gen. 15:13-16, “And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.”

Gen. 45:5-8, “Now therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yourselves, that ye sold me hither: for God did send me before you to preserve life. For these two years hath the famine been in the land: and yet there are five years, in the which there shall neither be earing nor harvest. And God sent me before you to preserve you a posterity in the earth, and to save your lives by a great deliverance. So now it was not you that sent me hither, but God: and he hath made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt.”

Gen. 50:20, “But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.”


1,918 posted on 02/12/2008 6:46:45 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: kosta50; blue-duncan
God din't make him blind just for that! Blindness like all desease is not from God but from our fallen nature.

Yup!

... And according to the Calvinists even that fallen nature was pre-planned by God

You know ,Dear Brother, The more I think of this, the more I begin to realize that Calvinism lets the devil off the hook on many things.

If God planned everything ,than how can the devil be guilty of tempting sin?

I'll just keep praying for them to wake up!

1,958 posted on 02/12/2008 4:12:39 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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