Yup!
... And according to the Calvinists even that fallen nature was pre-planned by God
You know ,Dear Brother, The more I think of this, the more I begin to realize that Calvinism lets the devil off the hook on many things.
If God planned everything ,than how can the devil be guilty of tempting sin?
I'll just keep praying for them to wake up!
“I’ll just keep praying for them to wake up!”
“Stfassisi, you are right. Every time I see Calvin and the gang, I see the devil peering from behind them.”
I have tried to keep the discussion focused on the scriptures without the ad hominem attacks but you guys just can’t seem to keep up with that sort of discussion.
We’ll try once more. Since God created man just a little lower than the angels from the dust of the earth, he being created could not possibly know the Creator or commune with God unless God condescended to fellowship with him as he did in the beginning. That condescension included a warning to obey which evidences an understanding that man will disobey and the sense of guilt in man evidences a built in warning system at creation. The fact that God had already devised a covering for sin in the garden demonstrates he was aware of it and the punishment because of the serious break in communion.
Created man on his own could never measure up to the love or moral purity required by God since he was not God. Good and very good, but not God. Created beings can’t create ex nihilo, so whence comes sin?