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Conclusion from Peru and Mexico
email from Randall Easter | 25 January 2008 | Randall Easter

Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg

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To: hosepipe; betty boop; Quix; Kolokotronis; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
Thank you oh so very much for sharing your insights on the Scriptural metaphors of gemstones and on Crystallography!

Of a truth, were it not for the crystalline geometry of frozen water, it would not float and the life beneath would not be insulated and would die.

2,821 posted on 02/24/2008 10:41:57 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Thank you for the ping to your interesting question/challenge.
2,822 posted on 02/24/2008 10:51:07 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 1000 silverlings
Your post has brought me to tears, dear brother in Christ! Thank you!
2,823 posted on 02/24/2008 10:53:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 1000 silverlings; hosepipe; Quix; Kolokotronis; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper
I have read Alamo's posts for a long time and was once confused by some of what she said too, but after awhile, when they are all seen in continuity, and consistency, AG posts nothing that boasts of herself, but if she boasts at all , she boasts in God and gives Him the glory.

That is a fact that I can attest to as well, 1000 Silverings! Alamo-Girl has never claimed that she has any special powers of her own, but proclaims the glory and power of God alone, and more than anyone I know tries ever to abide in His Holy Spirit. In the sense of actually living a Christian life, she is fulfilling the teaching of the Church, not setting herself in odds with it.

Thank you so much for your post!

2,824 posted on 02/24/2008 11:16:53 AM PST by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: Alamo-Girl

” Your post has brought me to tears, dear brother in Christ! Thank you!”

Oh please!


2,825 posted on 02/24/2008 12:03:10 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

but after awhile, when they are all seen in continuity, and consistency, AG posts nothing that boasts of herself, but if she boasts at all , she boasts in God and gives Him the glory.

= = =

INDEED!


2,826 posted on 02/24/2008 12:14:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alamo-Girl

QUITE SO. QUITE SO, Dear Sister in Christ.

Thx for your exhortations, example and encouragements.


2,827 posted on 02/24/2008 12:15:49 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl

So . . . are you . . .

uhhhh . . . questioning Alamo-Girl’s honesty?

. . . her candor?

. . . her authenticity?

. . . her being touched to the point of tears?

. . .

WHAT pray tell, is your ?incredulity? about???

And based on what . . . (besides wholesale biased presumption and assumption)?


2,828 posted on 02/24/2008 12:20:18 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

“Alamo-Girl has never claimed that she has any special powers of her own,...”

Of course she has. She has today. She claims the power to discern the actual and exact words of God apart from the words of the Apostles, apparently in a manner heretofore unknown to The Church. To me, that power is “special”. Claiming that power publicly is something else entirely.

“...and more than anyone I know tries ever to abide in His Holy Spirit.”

Really, BB? Just how is that being accomplished? Does it have to do with a lot of arm waving and shouting “Maranatha Jesus” or is there something else to it? Does it have anything to do with snakes? As you all know or have been informed, we Orthodox worship, what was it? Oh, stumps or some such thing. Does it have to do with stumps?

“Just as the fishermen hide the hook with bait and covertly hook the fish, similarly, the crafty allies of the heresies cover their evil teachings and corrupt understanding with pietism and hook the more simple, bringing them to spiritual death.” The man who said this, our venerable and God-bearing Father +Isidore of Pelusium was no fool, nor did he suffer heresy or heretics lightly. In great measure you have him to thank that you are likely neither a Nestorian or a Monophysite. There are reasons to be wary of excessive public piety or the ready acceptance of spiritual praise!


2,829 posted on 02/24/2008 12:23:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Quix

See #2829


2,830 posted on 02/24/2008 12:26:32 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
[ Oh please! ]

Ah! so your a hard case... K-man...
So was Jonah... The lord specializes in hard cases..
Thank God..

2,831 posted on 02/24/2008 12:28:17 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: stfassisi; Alamo-Girl

“The answer is yes when they are following the teachings of the Church”

The question doesn’t ask about “following the teachings” or “indwelling of the Holy Spirit”. It is a question of epistomology; how do we know. Before the individual follows the teachings of the church, does the Holy Spirit lead the individual to believe the teachings of the church are true?

The question does not deal with all of the teachings of the church, just enough to convince the individual to commit to the church for salvation. Is that the leading of the Holy Spirit in the life of the individual?


2,832 posted on 02/24/2008 12:29:40 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Alamo-Girl
it is apparent to me that you very, very, very, very strongly believe the Catholic Church.

Yes,I do believe that

Do you very,very,very,very strongly believe your own personal interpretations of Scripture are always correct?

2,833 posted on 02/24/2008 12:29:51 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl

What balderdash!

Alamo-Girl and other Protties have claimed nothing which Scripture has not declared is part of the

NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE, for EVERY Believer willing to walk obediently with God sufficiently close to manifest such things in their lives, by God’s Grace.

as Watchman Nee might put it!

####

Of course, the key quibble seems to be . . . that there’s

NO MAGICSTERICAL

MODERATING, ADMINSTERING, CONTROLLING, MANIPULATING, MANGLING, . . . such

DIRECT HOLY SPIRIT—BELIEVER phenomena.

Welllllllll whoop T Do! Seems to me God has a BIG PREFERENCE

TO RELATED TO

HIS KIDS

DIRECTLY

And the bureaucracy be hanged.

How anyone could read of Christ’s dealings with the RELIGIOUS RULERS of 2000 years ago and

even extrapolate anything different is mind boggling.

On the other hand . . . thanks for helping me seen the need to return the EO edifice’s ranking quite lower yet again.


2,834 posted on 02/24/2008 12:31:58 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Quix; Whosoever
[“Just as the fishermen hide the hook with bait and covertly hook the fish, similarly, the crafty allies of the heresies cover their evil teachings and corrupt understanding with pietism and hook the more simple, bringing them to spiritual death.” ]

When the Apostles argued who would be greatest in heaven(sic).. Jesus took a liyttle child and said UNLESS they become as one of "these" they would not see the Kingdom of the Heavens..

"Greatest in Heaven"?, indeed.. The sub-Apostles or ones following them were no doubt just as prone to arrogance.. You think?.. Heaven is NOT gained by the SMART but by the faithful.. AND SIMPLE... Even the orthodox, you know, like some Jewish Rabbis...

2,835 posted on 02/24/2008 12:37:42 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; betty boop
nor did he suffer heresy or heretics lightly.

So... you will tell us what we are to believe and if we don't believe you, and or the men you follow,there is no place in your Christianity for the rest of us? Hoo boy, what does that lead to?

We ought to obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29).

Mark 9:38

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

2,836 posted on 02/24/2008 12:43:57 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

“On the other hand . . . thanks for helping me seen the need to return the EO edifice’s ranking quite lower yet again.”

You are very welcome Quix. I am pleased to be able to confirm previously formed opinions.


2,837 posted on 02/24/2008 12:47:31 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: hosepipe

“The lord specializes in hard cases..
Thank God....”

Indeed; He absolutely has His work cut out for Him with me. The Metropolitan and I were chuckling about this very thing just this morning after the Liturgy.


2,838 posted on 02/24/2008 12:50:05 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: hosepipe

“The sub-Apostles or ones following them were no doubt just as prone to arrogance.. You think?.. Heaven is NOT gained by the SMART but by the faithful.. AND SIMPLE...”

Exactly, hp, exactly. That’s why the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.


2,839 posted on 02/24/2008 12:51:57 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Actually, I was being more than a little cheeky.

I’ve tended to hold the EO edifice quite a bit above he RC edifice.

But y’all really have eroded that historical sense of mine a lot more than I’d have preferred.


2,840 posted on 02/24/2008 12:54:03 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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