[blue-duncan]

“The answer is yes when they are following the teachings of the Church”

The question doesn’t ask about “following the teachings” or “indwelling of the Holy Spirit”. It is a question of epistomology; how do we know. Before the individual follows the teachings of the church, does the Holy Spirit lead the individual to believe the teachings of the church are true?

The question does not deal with all of the teachings of the church, just enough to convince the individual to commit to the church for salvation. Is that the leading of the Holy Spirit in the life of the individual?

[Mad Dawg]

The question does not deal with all of the teachings of the church, just enough to convince the individual to commit to the church for salvation.

B-D,
That sentence, especially the prepositional phrase I have bolded, brings me up short. If we could forego that level of specificity, I'd say that the Holy Spirit is involved in every perception of truth, from "The Sky is blue," through "2+2=4" and "I love you, Daddy," to "Courage is beautiful, excellence is difficult" to "Jesus Christ is Lord."

"The Spirit of the Lord has filled the whole world, and that which holds all things together knows what is said," (Sapientiae I:7) would be the tag.

I don't commit to the Church FOR salvation, but All who do so, do so in (or by, or one of them pesky prepositions) the Spirit, I would say.

[stfassisi]

IMO,If we freely open ourselves to really want to seek the truth and allow the Holy Spirit to fully guide us, I believe the Holy Spirit would guide us to the Catholic Church and we would all be united in one Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

Our self pride interferes with this and God does not force us. This goes for those who profess to be Catholic and do not follow the teachings of the Church

Divisions are not of Christ.