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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; betty boop
nor did he suffer heresy or heretics lightly.

So... you will tell us what we are to believe and if we don't believe you, and or the men you follow,there is no place in your Christianity for the rest of us? Hoo boy, what does that lead to?

We ought to obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29).

Mark 9:38

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

2,836 posted on 02/24/2008 12:43:57 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

“So... you will tell us what we are to believe and if we don’t believe you, and or the men you follow,there is no place in your Christianity for the rest of us?”

That’s hardly my call, 1000 s and it is certainly not my place to tell you what to believe. I know there is a place in The Church for all people, but that place requires a metanoia which most find far too difficult to undertake. I cannot say what consequences that failure or refusal might have.


2,841 posted on 02/24/2008 12:57:25 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Do you remember the hootin' and hollerin' over Dominus Iesus?

I think it is inaccurate to characterize us Calflicks as saying, "and if [you] don't believe [us], and or the men [we] follow,there is no place in [our]Christianity for the rest of [you]."

If you are baptized with water and in the name of the Trinity, you have a place in the Church. I am not saying anything about the place of those who are NOT baptized with water and in the name of the Trinity.

There is a disagreement. Many of you hold, I think, that if we believed more of what you believe and less of what we believe we would be happier and less guilt-driven and hag-ridden and do more good and imperil our souls less with idolatries and blasphemies and the rest. And RCs think that if you came into communion with the See of Rome and availed yourself of the teachings and sacraments you would would be happier and do more good and imperil your souls less with self-worship and blasphemies and the rest.

That doesn't mean we think there is no place in the Church for you, or that you are in come kind of communion with the Church right now.

I don't know where the orthodox are on the baptized who are not Orthodox. But I suspect that they join with us filthy papists in trusting in God's saving will.

In the past my posts of this kind have generally been responded to with startling hostility and/or condescension. I'm bracing myself.

2,847 posted on 02/24/2008 1:17:46 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; betty boop
We ought to obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29).

Indeed!

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. – Deuteronomy 4:2

To God be the glory!

2,893 posted on 02/24/2008 10:52:13 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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